fitness88 Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 In simple terms can someone please explain the Nvidia GTX graphics card numbering system, ie. 7xx v. 8xx v. 9xx. For example is a 980 better than a 1070 card? Thank you.
razo+r Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) No, a 980 isn't better than a 1070 The last two digits, in this case either 80 or 70 shows, the series, which goes up to 80, 80 Ti or a Titan whatever gen and starts mostly from 50 the first digit, now first two digits, in this case either 9 or 10 shows the Generation http://blog.logicalincrements.com/2014/06/graphics-cards-what-do-the-numbers-mean/ Edited December 11, 2016 by razo+r
fitness88 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Posted December 11, 2016 No, a 980 isn't better than a 1070 The last two digits, in this case either 80 or 70 shows, the series, which goes up to 80, 80 Ti or a Titan whatever gen and starts mostly from 50 the first digit, now first two digits, in this case either 9 or 10 shows the Generation Wouldn't an older generation be better with a higher series #. I was thinking that it's really the series # that indicates better performance while the generation # is just a newer unit.
razo+r Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 only sometimes, but since the Pascal Gen is so much more efficient, it isn't the case A GTX 980 TI is about on the level of a 1070 Generation is also a factor for the performance, like for example a 680 and 970 3 Gens difference, and 10 difference in the series, but a big performance difference
fitness88 Posted December 11, 2016 Author Posted December 11, 2016 only sometimes, but since the Pascal Gen is so much more efficient, it isn't the case A GTX 980 TI is about on the level of a 1070 Generation is also a factor for the performance, like for example a 680 and 970 3 Gens difference, and 10 difference in the series, but a big performance difference One of the reasons I ask, is the price difference, you always pay a lot more for the newest generation but it's not always worth it. So what would the best deal for your money be?
Invisibull Posted December 11, 2016 Posted December 11, 2016 Go through these charts, Fitness. Both performance and value are put into a very useful context: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/ i9 9900k - GTX 2080 Ti - MSI Z87 GD65 Mobo - 64GB HyperX Predator RGB DDR4 3200MHz - Win10 64 bit - TM Warthog w FSSB R3 mod - TrackIr 5.
fitness88 Posted December 12, 2016 Author Posted December 12, 2016 Go through these charts, Fitness. Both performance and value are put into a very useful context: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/ Looks like a good read at a glance, I'll put some time in later...thanks!
fitness88 Posted December 12, 2016 Author Posted December 12, 2016 Go through these charts, Fitness. Both performance and value are put into a very useful context: http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/ Well it would seem the 10xx generation is a big improvement. AMD v. Nvidia...any thoughts on preference?
hansangb Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 I know all the features for Rift (not sure about Vive) come out for NVidia first. I was a *long* time Radeon guy but switched in 6xx days and never looked back. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
fitness88 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Posted December 13, 2016 I know all the features for Rift (not sure about Vive) come out for NVidia first. I was a *long* time Radeon guy but switched in 6xx days and never looked back. Yes I too started off with Radeon and switched. One thing about Nvidia, their control panel doesn't have the ability to save user profiles the way AMD/ATI cards can.
razo+r Posted December 13, 2016 Posted December 13, 2016 Depends on what you like more AMD: cheaper mostly hotter less efficient good price-performance ratio "small" HBM memory(on some) NVidia more expensive more powerfull and efficient ?more aftermarket versions? more softwares like to run smoother with NVidia on the newer ones: GDDR5X
fitness88 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Posted December 13, 2016 Depends on what you like more AMD: cheaper mostly hotter less efficient good price-performance ratio "small" HBM memory(on some) NVidia more expensive more powerfull and efficient ?more aftermarket versions? more softwares like to run smoother with NVidia on the newer ones: GDDR5X Thanks, at the stores I see far more Nvidia products than AMD.
fitness88 Posted December 26, 2016 Author Posted December 26, 2016 After some good reading here I'm leaning toward the purchase of a GTX1070 for my new rig. I think it's excellent value for what you get at $550.00cad also I'm not willing to spend the 60% more for the GTX1080 $890.00cad. Now I need to figure out which manufacturer's card I should buy. Any recommendations and reasons why? Thank you.
razo+r Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 depends if you want to watercool it, overclock it or to look fancy...
fitness88 Posted December 26, 2016 Author Posted December 26, 2016 depends if you want to watercool it, overclock it or to look fancy... I will use it as is out of the box, not overly fancy. I had an Nvidia card and also a Zotac, I preferred the support I got from Nvidia, so that's one criteria.
Achiral Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 Any recommendations and reasons why? It's been many years since I've used NVIDIA, but when I did, I found EVGA to be the best for me. Typically good pricing, good factory overclocks, and they didn't give me any issues. I bought a GIGABYTE once due to its lower price (for the model at the time), and had the fan bearing die within a year. Got it replaced and that bearing went too. Replaced it with an MSI, and had that start failing (random vid card errors regardless of driver version used) about a year later. As with all things: YMMV.
razo+r Posted December 26, 2016 Posted December 26, 2016 I will use it as is out of the box, not overly fancy. I had an Nvidia card and also a Zotac, I preferred the support I got from Nvidia, so that's one criteria. Then i can recommend you watching some benchmarks I used ASUS and MSI, both were ok, nothing weird or bad
hansangb Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 Yup, I never had a problem with EVGA. hsb HW Spec in Spoiler --- i7-10700K Direct-To-Die/OC'ed to 5.1GHz, MSI Z490 MB, 32GB DDR4 3200MHz, EVGA 2080 Ti FTW3, NVMe+SSD, Win 10 x64 Pro, MFG, Warthog, TM MFDs, Komodo Huey set, Rverbe G1
fitness88 Posted December 27, 2016 Author Posted December 27, 2016 Yup, I never had a problem with EVGA. I'm now using an ASUS, I'm happy with it...actually I looked for the v-card with the kind of connectors that fit my monitors. I guess that's not the top criteria:smartass:
Brewnix Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 I'm now using an ASUS, I'm happy with it...actually I looked for the v-card with the kind of connectors that fit my monitors. I guess that's not the top criteria:smartass: Ah FYI! 1070 card don't do analog signal. Just in case you haven't heard that yet. I ran in to that problem I had 3 40in lcd tv's with 3 displayport to VGA cords plugged in to a 970 and it worked great but not with the 1070 I bought. I had to switch to HDMI cords which if you have to do that remember adjust the sharpness to off or low if you are using tv's or HDMI 1.4 of some sort and its not consider a computer monitor. Low or no sharpness will get the grainy look out of the desktop. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
fitness88 Posted December 27, 2016 Author Posted December 27, 2016 Ah FYI! 1070 card don't do analog signal. Just in case you haven't heard that yet. I ran in to that problem I had 3 40in lcd tv's with 3 displayport to VGA cords plugged in to a 970 and it worked great but not with the 1070 I bought. I had to switch to HDMI cords which if you have to do that remember adjust the sharpness to off or low if you are using tv's or HDMI 1.4 of some sort and its not consider a computer monitor. Low or no sharpness will get the grainy look out of the desktop. Thanks for the heads up...I will make sure of the connections before getting my new rig with the 1070. My 3 monitors are the same with HDMI connection, my current rig's v-card has 2 DVI-d [digital] and 1 HDMI output so I got 2 cables that have HDMI at 1 end and DVI-d [digital] at the other end. It works well. It's great that there are all kinds of adapter cables.
Home Fries Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 Another EVGA advocate here. They're a solid company. Getting back to the OP question about which cards are "better", the best answer "which someone already said" is that the first 1 or 2 numbers is the card generation, and the last 2 represents the processing ability within that generation. However, a rule of thumb that has worked for me is that for every generation you go up, you can reduce the last 2 numbers by 10 to get a roughly equivalent card (e.g. 670 ~ 760 ~ 850). As a gamer I also wouldn't touch anything less than a 50, and I would still consider a 60 to be a minimum spec for something like DCS. -Home Fries My DCS Files and Skins My DCS TARGET Profile for Cougar or Warthog and MFDs F-14B LANTIRN Guide
fitness88 Posted December 27, 2016 Author Posted December 27, 2016 Another EVGA advocate here. They're a solid company. Getting back to the OP question about which cards are "better", the best answer "which someone already said" is that the first 1 or 2 numbers is the card generation, and the last 2 represents the processing ability within that generation. However, a rule of thumb that has worked for me is that for every generation you go up, you can reduce the last 2 numbers by 10 to get a roughly equivalent card (e.g. 670 ~ 760 ~ 850). As a gamer I also wouldn't touch anything less than a 50, and I would still consider a 60 to be a minimum spec for something like DCS. I was told by retailers I spoke with and Nvidia the 10xx generation is an exception to your rule. It far outdoes its previous generation...and I don't think it was said to make a sale.
dburne Posted December 27, 2016 Posted December 27, 2016 I was told by retailers I spoke with and Nvidia the 10xx generation is an exception to your rule. It far outdoes its previous generation...and I don't think it was said to make a sale. Indeed it does, I am very pleased with my EVGA GTX 1080 FTW. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
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