FishDoctor Posted December 21, 2016 Posted December 21, 2016 Hey guys, I was wondering, if there is a way to decouple the vivianne from the cyclic. I use a different stick for the vivianne but if the cyclic isn't extremly centered the second stick is not responding. Does anyone unerstand whats the problem? thanks! FishDoc
Sryan Posted December 21, 2016 Posted December 21, 2016 Did you bind it to the slew left/right and slew up/down axis commands? Check my F-15C guide
FishDoctor Posted December 22, 2016 Author Posted December 22, 2016 Exactly, and its working fine, except when the cyclic isn't centered.
AOG Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 I would check that you haven't accidentally double bound your collective axis. DCS seams to do that by default for my joystick and pedals. AOG
SnowTiger Posted January 10, 2017 Posted January 10, 2017 Maybe you could Tune your Cyclic with a bit of a Dead Zone to offset or eliminate the Offset the Center Portion of Cyclic Movement. SnowTiger AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Zen 4 16-Core 4.5 GHz - Socket AM5 - 170W Desktop Processor ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI 6E Socket AM5 (LGA 1718) Ryzen 7000 gaming motherboard Geforce RTX 4090 Gaming Trio X - 24GB GDDR6X + META Quest 3 + Controllers + Warthog Throttle, CH Pro Pedals, VKB Gunfighter MKII MCG Pro G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo Series 64 GB RAM (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 RAM
David OC Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 I use the mini stick on my CH pro throttle which works great. You should be able to use both at the same time as I can? I'm able use the camera and fly, the benefit of having the control on a joystick is finer camera control movement. As AOG said, check your axis settings i7-7700K OC @ 5Ghz | ASUS IX Hero MB | ASUS GTX 1080 Ti STRIX | 32GB Corsair 3000Mhz | Corsair H100i V2 Radiator | Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 500G SSD | Samsung 850 EVO 500G SSD | Corsair HX850i Platinum 850W | Oculus Rift | ASUS PG278Q 27-inch, 2560 x 1440, G-SYNC, 144Hz, 1ms | VKB Gunfighter Pro Chuck's DCS Tutorial Library Download PDF Tutorial guides to help get up to speed with aircraft quickly and also great for taking a good look at the aircraft available for DCS before purchasing. Link
FishDoctor Posted January 21, 2017 Author Posted January 21, 2017 I find the Viv is far easier to control when simply mapped to a hat instead of an axis. Just my thoughts, YMMV. I don't think so, works way better with a stick for me. I mapped it like you David, and it works fine when I'm flying, but when I go to autohover DCS automatically maps the cyclic to controll vivianne. I'm just searching for a way to demap the cyclic from vivianne...
The M Posted January 21, 2017 Posted January 21, 2017 I use both. while searching for the target i use the hat and for precise aiming, I use my joystick with a modifier. The hat alone is not verry good if the target is moving.
SnowTiger Posted January 23, 2017 Posted January 23, 2017 I also use both a Hat and the Stick for controlling the Vivian camera and for steering launched HOT3's. I find the Stick is a more refined control whereas the Hat is less refined and has a faster reaction. SnowTiger AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Zen 4 16-Core 4.5 GHz - Socket AM5 - 170W Desktop Processor ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI 6E Socket AM5 (LGA 1718) Ryzen 7000 gaming motherboard Geforce RTX 4090 Gaming Trio X - 24GB GDDR6X + META Quest 3 + Controllers + Warthog Throttle, CH Pro Pedals, VKB Gunfighter MKII MCG Pro G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo Series 64 GB RAM (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 RAM
Fakum Posted February 18, 2019 Posted February 18, 2019 I know this is old, but Im having an issue, new to the Gazelle. I want my joystick for both flight control AND slewing the camera. I have checked and unchecked the "Second Joystick for Camera" and I am unable to assign the Joy X & Joy Y to both the joystick and camera slew at the same time within the DCS controls? Any help would be appreciated, thanks. Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit / ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming / AMD 7800X3D / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 64GB DDR5 6000 Ram / SSD M.2 SK hynix Platinum P41 2TB / MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X 24G / SteelSeries Arctis 7 Headset /LG-Ultragear 38" IPS LED Ultrawide HD Monitor (3840 x 1600) / Track IR4 / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Virpil HOTAS VPC Constellation ALPHA-R & VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle
LazyBoot Posted February 18, 2019 Posted February 18, 2019 I know this is old, but Im having an issue, new to the Gazelle. I want my joystick for both flight control AND slewing the camera. I have checked and unchecked the "Second Joystick for Camera" and I am unable to assign the Joy X & Joy Y to both the joystick and camera slew at the same time within the DCS controls? Any help would be appreciated, thanks. I think you misunderstood the meaning of that option. It'll use whatever is bound to the normal flight controls to control the camera when the second stick mode is not active.
SnowTiger Posted February 18, 2019 Posted February 18, 2019 Hi Fakum It pays to look at the "Second Joystick for Camera" checkbox after Updates. Sometimes the Update will fill-in or Check that checkbox. It must be UNCHECKED for your Joystick (aka Cyclic) to slew the Viviane. The stick works like a very fine-tuned version of the slew controls compared to any Hat you set up to also slew the controls. I have a Thumb Hat on my Stick that I used to Fast Slew the Viviane Camera AND I have a Push function (5th axis) on my Hat to Reset or return the Vivian to Center. I also use 2 positions of a Hat (1 axis .. forward and back) on my Hotas Warthog to Zoom In/Out. Any switch or hat could be used for Zoom. The Hat on my stick for fast slewing and centering is great BUT for Fine Tuned Controls AND if/when having to steer the Hot3 to the target (eg: moving target), I definitely then use my Stick to slew slower but with more accurate control. I try to fly on the 104th Phoenix Server every morning around 10am or 11am EST if you need any help with the Gazelle. I have been flying it since it was released. I love it and I'm getting deadlier by the day. I'll be happy to help in any way I can. SnowTiger AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Zen 4 16-Core 4.5 GHz - Socket AM5 - 170W Desktop Processor ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI 6E Socket AM5 (LGA 1718) Ryzen 7000 gaming motherboard Geforce RTX 4090 Gaming Trio X - 24GB GDDR6X + META Quest 3 + Controllers + Warthog Throttle, CH Pro Pedals, VKB Gunfighter MKII MCG Pro G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo Series 64 GB RAM (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 RAM
Fakum Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 @ LazyBoot, Ok, maybe thats what I am doing wrong, Im trying to BIND the X & Y axis to those functions from within DCS Controls. I see your point and will give that a go. @SnowTiger, thanks for the tips and for your offer sir. I am not usually on during the day, but I have seen you on TeamSpeak for the 104th over the weekend and I happened to be on yesterday morning because it was a Holiday. Off topic but we were both on the 104th yesterday morning and we both were FARP crushing. I just started the Gazelle last week and I arrived at the FARP just before you and was trying to get into a hover with the M model and while I was struggling with that, I watched you haul a$$ in there and strafe the hell out of those targets! Magnificent flying sir! Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit / ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming / AMD 7800X3D / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 64GB DDR5 6000 Ram / SSD M.2 SK hynix Platinum P41 2TB / MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X 24G / SteelSeries Arctis 7 Headset /LG-Ultragear 38" IPS LED Ultrawide HD Monitor (3840 x 1600) / Track IR4 / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Virpil HOTAS VPC Constellation ALPHA-R & VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle
SnowTiger Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 It was a fun day yesterday with the help of GCI and the Flyboys who were covering us. I was pretty sure I recognized your handle "Fakum" while I was in there. I look forward to flying with you some time. I do get on in the early evenings (Eastern Time Zone) but I don't stay on too late when I do. Good luck with the setup. Once you get the hang of the many Gazelle Models I'm sure you will really enjoy flying all of them (although I rarely take the gattling gun model out). SnowTiger AMD Ryzen 9 7950X - Zen 4 16-Core 4.5 GHz - Socket AM5 - 170W Desktop Processor ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI 6E Socket AM5 (LGA 1718) Ryzen 7000 gaming motherboard Geforce RTX 4090 Gaming Trio X - 24GB GDDR6X + META Quest 3 + Controllers + Warthog Throttle, CH Pro Pedals, VKB Gunfighter MKII MCG Pro G.SKILL Trident Z5 Neo Series 64 GB RAM (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000 RAM
Fakum Posted February 19, 2019 Posted February 19, 2019 (edited) Thanks SnowTiger, Im sure we will cross paths again. Slewing of the V camera now works as intended, thanks guys Edited February 19, 2019 by Fakum Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit / ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming / AMD 7800X3D / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 64GB DDR5 6000 Ram / SSD M.2 SK hynix Platinum P41 2TB / MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X 24G / SteelSeries Arctis 7 Headset /LG-Ultragear 38" IPS LED Ultrawide HD Monitor (3840 x 1600) / Track IR4 / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Virpil HOTAS VPC Constellation ALPHA-R & VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle
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