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[sobe]

I think the problem is that your #2 monitor is your main display and it is on the left. Therefore, if you want Ikarus to appear on monitor #1, x would start at 0. Perhaps DCS is having problems as it also is confused. Maybe put monitor #1 on the left and #2 on the right REGARDLESS of how you actually have them set up. For example, I have my monitor #1 on top of my monitor #2, but for Windows, they are listed side by side with #1 on the left.

[Fakum]

I certainly understand your point. Interesting thing is, although the PC is a new build, I am using the same monitors and config as the older build. And the monitors were ALWAYS setup like this, and Helios works just fine. I could never switch the monitor numbers, but am able to make the 30" the Main Screen. Heres how they were setup on both builds. I would only have the 30" plugged in during the fresh build, never both. When I got to the point where I was ready to install Helios, I would then plug in the 2nd 24" touch screen, and windows would then number 'IT" as #1 for some strange reason? Maybe because the 30" is plugged into the GPU as Dual DVI (no other option), and the 2nd monitor is plugged in to the GPU Mini Display port via a DVI to Mini Display Port adapter? Either way, the monitors are setup and works just fine. When I run the mouse from far left side of 30" monitor and move it right, it continues over to the 24" screen as you would expect. So like I said, I have Helios starting at X=2560 with no issues for over 5 years, this new PC is configured like a cloan, except for new hardware. Now if I set Ikarus profile to X=0, the display shows up on my main screen with DCS (not where I want it), set the Ikarus profile to start at X=2560, and it sits perfectly on the touchscreen until I load a mission in DCS. No idea what to do? Im just wondering if there is a file that was edited for exporting Helios in play here and IO dont realize it? I have only loaded Snackos Export Mod on this PC to run Helios, but i have that disabled in OvGME. Im at a loss, but I will figure it out eventually. I expect its something fundamental, just gotta stumble across it by experimenting

[sobe]

I had a similar problem when I bought a new video card that had only one DVI port and no VGA ports. I ended up getting a cable that converted one a port so my touchscreen would show as monitor #2. Perhaps your display cable cable is causing that monitor to be #1 and not #2. i don't feel well today but i will look later as to what I did.

I wrote the following on the BMS forum:

 

I just leaned an interesting fact. In windows, the HDMI port will take priority as to the ID numbers of the monitors. These ID numbers are different than the windows numbers that you can manipulate in the Windows display. You cannot change the windows ID numbers like you can change the windows numbers in the windows display.

So the end result was that my new video card has only one HDMI port and several display ports and one DVI port. When I hooked up my touch screen to the HDMI port, it kept registering as ID#1 so when I ran Helios, my regular monitor was ID#2 and Helios was sent to ID#1, which screwed things up in the Helios profile.

With only one HDMI port, I found the solution to be to use a DVI to display port converter cable for my touch screen and a regular DVI cable for my regular monitor. So by bypassing the HDMI port, my regular monitor is now ID#1 and my touch screen monitor is now ID#2, the exact way Helios likes it. DVI = ID#1 and Display port = ID#2. This only took 2 weeks to figure out.

[Fakum]

Sorry you dont feel well, hope you are better tomorrow. Im in no rush. My situation with my EVGA 980Ti Hybrid is that it has 1 Dual DVI, then multiple display ports and 1 HDMI. The Main 30" monitor MUST be connected to a Dual DVI port (as it is) to get the full resolution of 2560 x 1600, then I dont have many choices to plug in the touchscreen as it is DVI or HDMI, and I simply added a converter to use the DVI to plug into a Display port.

 

Fortunately, I do a lot of image backups with Acronis, this gives me the luxury of restoring Windows back to any given time to experiment or to fix screw ups. I have just restored back to when I did a fresh install of DCS without Helios installed. I will now load Ikarus over the next couple of days and see if it makes a difference? Thanks Sobe.

[sobe]

Fakum

So your system is as follows:

Monitor #1 >>>Dual DVI>>>>EVGA Card

Monitor #2 >>>DVI>>> Display Port>>>EVGA Card

My system is

Monitor #1 >>>>DVI>>>MSI Card

Monitor #2 >>>>DvI>>>Display Port>>>MSI Card

So this would not seem to be the issue as we have very similar setups.

the only difference appears to be that I make Monitor 1 in windows my main monitor and you make your Monitor #2 as your main monitor.

[Fakum]

Yes, but it is not by choice that my Main 30" monitor is identified as Monitor#2. Windows 10 created it that way, and I have not been able to alter it. I did however read today that I may be able to change the numbering through the EVGA control panel instead. I will try this ASAP, thanks.

[sobe]

That was the problem I had before I used a converter cable and solved the problem. It is my understanding that the only other way to change Windows ID numbering (as opposed to the display order) is by a registry hack that I do not do. Good luck. MSI support could not help me on this issue.

[sobe]

So your setup is the following?

 

30" Monitor #2 >>>Dual DVI>>>>EVGA Card

24" touchscreen Monitor #1 >>>DVI>>> Display Port>>>EVGA Card

[Fakum]

Yes, and i just went into the Nvidia control panel, and even though the 30" monitor is the Primary Display, I can not change it from #2 to #1. Then again, thats how my old pc was, and that and this new one run Helios just fine. Helios starts at X=2560

[Fakum]

Well,,, no luck! I assume Im configuring something wrong? I just restored back to a fresh install of DCS, downloaded the Ikarus files. Created a new file and it did the same thing,,, it moves to the location I wanted and stays there until I start a mission in DCS,,,,,,,,,,,grrrrrrrrrrrr

[sobe]

teamspeak

[Fakum]

Not sure what time I can get on but it will likely be about 7 EST. I will PM u, if not, next chance wont be till maybe Monday,,, thanks Sobe

[sobe]

I will be out from 3:30 PST to around 6:00 Pst.

[Habu_69]

I need help understanding Ikarus. I have installed the latest Github version. My main monitor is 2560x1440 with 2 MFD monitors at 768x1280 arranged to the right in Windoze as shown here:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=191299&page=5

 

My MonitorSetup in DCSW Options has the center viewport set as w=2560, h=1440 and DCSW Options total display width of 4096.

 

Invoking Ikarus and loading the P-51D.ikarus file shows a single panel of 1920x1080 and the config.xml file in Ikarus also seems setup for a 1920x1080 main monitor. My problem is that when I move and resize the instrument locations using the Configuration/Editor Mode, the instruments snap to different and strange locations as soon as I disengage the Editor Mode. This happens whether or not I have saved the file. I have tried:

1. Changing Config.xml Cockpithight=1440, Cockpitwidth=2560

2. Changing Config.xml Cockpitpos X and Y

3. Various Ikarus Configuration single panel widths 1920, 2560, 4096, etc.

4. Ikarus Configuration of 3 panels (2560x1440, 768x1280, 768x1280)

 

My best success has been setting up one Ikarus panel of 4060x1440. When I manually edit the instrument positions they remain where assigned, BUT the instrument location pixel settings are totally trial and error, bearing no relation to the actual pixel locations. For example upper left corner of Display 2 seems to be x=2060 instead of 2560. Can anyone provide guidance? I must admit in advance I have not read all 35 pages of this thread.

[Habu_69]

I am slowly figuring this out with the help of the Ikarus documentation and Google Translate, since I do not speak Deutch. I still have the problem with the pixel locations and the Edit Mode, which I suspect are related. I also am unable to get the BackGround graphics to function properly. I added a second panel coincidental with the instrument panel, but the background graphic insists on being the top layer, thus concealing the instruments, despite whichever panel I check the Refresh column in Configuration.

[Habu_69]

Has anyone configured the fuselage fuel gage to operate? How?

[Fakum]

If its any consolation, I have not been able to get this to keep the panels on my 2nd monitor either. you would think by setting the X and Y positions would stick, but for me, it goes there and stays where I want it until I actually load a mission,,,,,I just dont know how to fix it.

[Fakum]

Heres an ODD result I just found in an effort to make this work. I went into Ikarus root directory and created a shortcut to my desktop for "Ikarus.exe", in an effort to see if it made a difference, I ran the executable as Admin. All was well, so I went into the Shortcut properties and checked the box to 'Run as Admin". once applied and saved, I ran the shortcut, Ikarus would open for about 3 seconds, the desktop shortcut would evaporate, Ikarus shuts down, then when I went back into the root directory, the "Ikarus.exe"was GONE! I even did a full search on my SSD to see if it got displaced? Not even in the recycle bin! Fortunately I did a system restore all back to normal, went through the same process again, with identical results,,,,,, moving on!

[Fakum]

OK! I have made some progress,,,,, I found that I can place the Ikarus profile on my 2nd monitor and keep it there only AFTER I have already loaded a DCS Mission. What I was doing before was starting Ikarus, then starting DCS,, so now it is staying right where I plot the X & Y. The only thing that I see now is that for the A-10C for example, the left and right MFCD and the RWR are not exporting to Ikarus? What file do I now have to tinker with? Thanks,

[BravoYankee4]

Exporting the viewports for MFD's etc isn't handled in Ikarus - for that you need to do some changes in the lua scripts, or use an application like UltraMFCD.

[Fakum]

Thanks,

[Habu_69]

Is it normal for the main/center display content to be present also in the MFCD and RWR viewports ( which display on separate monitors) when the MFCD and RWR graphics are not being exported, as when in P-51D cockpit?

[Fakum]

Heck if I know? I just gave up myself. I figured out a way to make it stay on the 2nd monitor, then I realized I had to export a few things, but the only way I know how to do that is the same way I did in Helios, created a custom monitor config, used Snakos export MOD and switch from 1 monitor to the custom one in DCS GUI, now I cant get it to stay on the 2nd monitor again,,,,, I have way too many hours into trying to get this to replace Helios unfortunately,,, time to fall back to Helios for me.

[Habu_69]

I use Ikarus only for P-51D, as it has no need for viewports. I achieved a workable success in Ikarus by configuring 2 pairs of panels with normal location coordinates, as described in the Ikarus user document, to the right of my main screen. The 2 panels in each pair have the same monitor size and location with one panel used only for background graphic and the second only for instruments. This gives me an instrument panel with background on each side of my main screen.

 

I found that if I specify instrument size and location manually in the instrument detail, then the instrument remains in its designated location. Using Editor Mode results in the instruments auto-relocating themselves. Also be aware that when starting DCSW Ikarus seems to always invoke the default named profile for a given aircraft (i.e. P-51D.ikarus), regardless of the profile open before starting DCSW.

Edited October 27, 2017 by Habu_69

[WildBillKelsoe]

I just tried Ikarus and I have to say it makes flying alot easier with multimonitor setups. Also focussing on flying and promoting peripheral vision is a bonus. Well done guys its really great!

 

one question though, I cant seem to get the radar working on F-5E to appear on ikarus. I'd love to be able to.

 

 

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