Video: biggest Russian cargo

[zaGURUinzaSKY]

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/267092/video/R/CFD_1002/

[Force_Feedback]

Yes, and some may say it's the F-16 with CFTs, but that thing sure as he** ain't Russian, same crappy Soviet equipment, but as an avid lomac flyer you should know better ;)

[zaGURUinzaSKY]

?? I don't understand what you mean duude and I'm not an avid flyer..

[ALDEGA]

It's a common response from FF: meaningless, a waste of space

[Force_Feedback]

It's not Russian, jeesh, f*** subtlety. It's Ukrainian.

 

Generalisations are too a waste of space, someone might say.

[Guest IguanaKing]

Actually, he's technically correct. The AN-225 is Ukrainian, not Russian. ;)

 

Edit: ...and Force beat me to the punch. :D

[zaGURUinzaSKY]

ahah interesting I search in wiki english (they say ukraine) and wiki Italian (they say russia) O_o

[zaGURUinzaSKY]

from wiki: It became independent again after the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991.

 

that's why some still call it Russian maybe..

 

Cancel any doubt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-225

[Stealth_HR]

One of the most beautiful cargo transports ever, bar none. The VM-T Atlant comes in a close second for me, but this takes the cake and the candles.

[Force_Feedback]

from wiki: It became independent again after the Soviet Union's collapse in 1991.

 

that's why some still call it Russian maybe..

 

Cancel any doubt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-225

 

In fact, almost every mention of the Soviet Union on the Discovery Channel (and on D science) here, gets the subtitled translation of 'Russia', while the Soviet Union consisted of about 15 nations, each making their own contributions (think Georgia and su-25), so it's unfair to all the people that were working on something, let it even be a toaster, to say 'Russian'.

 

Guess it would sound strange if I called Italian inventions/scientists/people 'Nazi German' if I referred to Musolini's regime during and pre WWII. (no pun intended at all, just as a comparison)

 

 

BTW, can you see those wings lifting themselves before the fuselage? Now that's wing flex :P Oh, can we have the T/W ratio of that baby? Neverming, the turning performance is rather poor, I guess :p

[nscode]

to avoid this, simply say it's the world's largest cargo :)

 

(if you include only planes that lifted off higher than their own hight ;))

[Guest IguanaKing]

The AN-225 is certainly the longest aircraft to fly out of ground effect. :D

 

Calling the AN-225 a Russian aircraft is definitely a throw-back to the Cold War, hell, even Sting referred to the Soviets as "Russians" in his 80's song which said "I hope the Russians love their children too." I have heard this misconception on the radio recently as well, concerning the movie "Borat". A local radio station has a guy they call "Joe the Russian", and he was interviewing Borat one morning. It was funny, because the DJs kept saying, "They have a lot in common. They can talk about their Russian heritage." :megalol: I laughed my arse off with that comment. :D

 

Oh well...I guess its not all that different than a person from the US being the only one that anyone refers to as "American", even though the US represents only about 25% of the two American continents.:D

[Force_Feedback]

And the name of cohen's movie is probably the longest as well :p Too bad over 50% of it has been done before by him as Borat, just with different people, on the ali g show.

 

What about an an-225 with 6 trent 900s? Surely you can raise the payload to 600 tonnes with them, all it needs then is some FCS to keep the angle of attack high enough, and to do the throttling.

 

And when will they finally finish the second one, all it does now is take up hangar space.

 

Oh, a common military cargo plane question: why don't the military cargo aircraft have ejection seats? The weight penalty would be acceptable, and if its small enough to fit the whole crew on one deck, then why not? Are some ethics involved, as with the V-22, or do they think its worth the risk. I'm not talking about parachutes, but about real ejection seats, with a rocket.

I think it's because they are not in a lot of danger when doing their mission (supply routes rarely run through hostile territory), but then there is the problem of peacetime crashes, so why not give the crew some additional safety besides ordinary parachutes?

[Dmut]

since it was made before 1991 (first flight on 1988 ), so let's say it was made by Soviet, and now it is Ukrainian property.

[zaGURUinzaSKY]

let's say is made in Taiwan! it wont hurt me much.. ;-) I just wanted to show the big bird taking off... how nice is it?!

[Kula66]

Watched it land at Farnborough some years ago ... a monster. Fanrborough is a big runway but those engines were well out over the grass ... Fantastic engineering!

[zaGURUinzaSKY]

I saw many B52 on short final when I was in the army in the 91'.. and I remember it was really impressive, 185ft wingspan, but this one is 291 ft !! holy cow!

[Ukr_Alex]

since it was made before 1991 (first flight on 1988 ), so let's say it was made by Soviet, and now it is Ukrainian property.

 

 

Correct ;)

 

So lets refer to all of military equipment to come out of the Soviet Union as Soviet. However ignorant people call it all Russian...when the Union Conisted of many nations.

 

But personaly I have no problem calling a Su or a Mig Russian. Because those design beuros were Russian, on Russian territory.

 

But Antonov is technicaly a Ukranian Soviet Socialist Republic beuro, hence its Ukranian, just like the SS-18 was a Ukranian missle since it was designed in a Ukranian Soviet Socialist Republic design beuro.

 

 

So we have a choice, we either call everthing a big colective "soviet" or we call it by name of the nation in which it was designed. ;)