Introducing the VKB-Sim ‘Modern Combat Grip’ (MCG)

[Soulraptor]

Hi,

Will the MCG PRO have the ability to lock at an angle like the VPC T-50? I'm looking into center mounting options and am wondering whether or not they would be viable.

[rrohde]

VKB sticks have had that option to rotate the grip for years... so yeah. (others copying VKB is the highest form of flattery)

[Soulraptor]

VKB sticks have had that option to rotate the grip for years... so yeah.

Excellent, thanks! Time to finally pull the trigger on some Monstertech mounts.

[aaron886]

Seriously VKB, you guys need to hire a manuals guy to do nothing but put together all relevant information for all your products into PDFs and 2 or 3 page guides in the box. VKBDevCfg in particular is pretty overwhelming to work with and while there are SOME tool-tips, they rarely give a good explanation of what things really do.

 

Agreed! In this day and age, I think videos are great too. Your YouTube channel could be much more helpful. :)

Edited December 20, 2017 by aaron886

[cichlidfan]

Agreed. Documentation for a product is vital and should not be seen as something to be taken care of long after most of the sales have occured.

[elecsys]

Please see edited note above...

 

thanks!

 

Do you happen to know what the single push button costs as an accessory?

And is it an easy conversion?

[Sokol1_br]

This guy in Asia win "the race for put hands" on MCG grip. :)

 

https://imgur.com/gallery/1ze9Z

Edited December 21, 2017 by Sokol1_br

[rrohde]

This guy in Asia win "the race for put hands" on MCG grip. :)

 

https://imgur.com/gallery/1ze9Z

 

:thumbup:

[rrohde]

VKB HQ released (21-Dec-2017) the very latest VKBdevCfg device application software with MCG/MCG PRO support included.

 

Get it from their FTP site here.

Edited December 21, 2017 by rrohde
FIXED URL

[rrohde]

thanks!

 

Do you happen to know what the single push button costs as an accessory?

And is it an easy conversion?

 

I haven't gotten any info on that yet. Once VKB HQ provides me with a photo, description, and price, I will add that to the webshop asap.

[rrohde]

Oh, and as a side note, Bitcoin is now accepted as payment option via Stripe at VKBcontrollers.com.

Edited December 21, 2017 by rrohde

[aaron886]

Don't know how, Rainer, but that link turns into a URI encoding mess in my browser. Is there a CAD drawing of the MCG available for pit builders? Pretty sure it's going to require a modification to my mount to fit it under my desk... it's a monster!

[rrohde]

Don't know how, Rainer, but that link turns into a URI encoding mess in my browser. Is there a CAD drawing of the MCG available for pit builders? Pretty sure it's going to require a modification to my mount to fit it under my desk... it's a monster!

 

Fixed the URL above - sorry about that. :)

 

I will have to ask VKB HQ for some drawings. They should have them (or soon will have them). I will let you know.

[rrohde]

VKB HQ released (21-Dec-2017) the the new WIZZO for Gunfighter + MCG/MCG PRO .

 

Get it from their FTP site here.

[Davee]

This guy in Asia win "the race for put hands" on MCG grip. :)

 

https://imgur.com/gallery/1ze9Z

 

I notice on the base, on the top ring, that a screw hole is not drilled out. Yet, on the VKB site it shows the ring having screws all the way around.

 

Is this a modification or a manufacturing mistake?

Edited December 22, 2017 by Catseye

[rrohde]

That's a new feature of the Gunfighter Mk.II - you can now access the dry clutches from the top, by simply removing the dust cover. That one screw hole was spared to make room for the dry clutch adjustment access.

 

(the images on the VKBcontrollers.com website are outdated; waiting for new ones when VKB HQ gets around taking them)

 

Quick Edit: From VKB HQ: "we used our standart plastic ring (same used for GF Mk.I and Gladiators). We used a rubber cup for close up the hole"

Edited December 22, 2017 by rrohde

[Davee]

That's a new feature of the Gunfighter Mk.II - you can now access the dry clutches from the top, by simply removing the dust cover. That one screw hole was spared to make room for the dry clutch adjustment access.

 

(the images on the VKBcontrollers.com website are outdated; waiting for new ones when VKB HQ gets around taking them)

 

Quick Edit: From VKB HQ: "we used our standart plastic ring (same used for GF Mk.I and Gladiators). We used a rubber cup for close up the hole"

 

Interesting and a much needed modification in my view.

I gather that the second adjustment access is somewhere between two other screws.

[rrohde]

See here:

 

[Davee]

See here:

 

 

Thanks, I saw that post but was not sure of what the change was but now I understand that those two points were screw adjustments for the dry-clutch and now they are accessed from the top.

Excellent!

[rrohde]

Right. So even though you still have to a) detach the stick and b) remove the dust cover, a neat little trick might be to put the grip back on, leave the dust cover off, and adjust the dry clutch as desired, test it out, re-adjust as needed, and once happy, take the grip back off, put the dustcover back on, attach the grip, and enjoy.

 

DISCLAIMER *DON'T OVERTIGHTEN THE DRY CLUTCH - ONLY USE SMALL ADJUSTMENTS!* :thumbup:

[rrohde]

How to Calibrate your Gunfighter w/ MCG/MCG PRO correctly:

 

1) Don't use the native Windows calibration ulitity!

2) Use WIZZO GF Edition (http://ftp.vkb-sim.pro/Programms/wizzo_gf_0_98.zip) or VKBDevCfg w/ MCG supprt (http://ftp.vkb-sim.pro/Programms/VKBDevCfg-C_v0_83_8_5.zip) for calibration.

Note: Before continuing, ensure that the foldable trigger is in the center position (MCG PRO only)

3) Pull the foldable trigger to forward position (MCG PRO only).

4) Press trigger and return to a center position (MCG PRO only).

6) Click ‘Start’ (calibration button) in WIZZO - or - click the ‘Start Calibr’ button in VKBdevCfg; the SYS LED on the Blackbox starts blinking (WIZZO displays CALIBRATING label).

7) Move the stick through its full range (pitch and roll axes).

8 ) Move MASTER MODE (РЕЖИМ КБО) ministick on the MCG’s head through its full range.

9) Move GATE CONT (УПРАВ СТРОБ) ministick on the MCG’s head through its full range.

10) Squeeze the BRAKE lever fully.

11) Move the foldable trigger forward and backward (full range) (MCG PRO only)

12) If VKB T-Rudders are connected to the Gunfighter's BlackBox - move the T-Rudder axis through its full range as well.

13) Click the 'STOP' button (WIZZO) - or - click the 'End Calibr' button (VKBdevCfg); the joystick will restart. WIZZO closes automatically (VKBdevCfg may be closed manually if desired).

14) Done.

Calibration information is stored within the Gunfighter's BlackBox.

[aaron886]

This information needs to be part of clear documentation in a well-organized and easy to find documentation/instruction section on your website. Nobody should have to hunt through pages of unorganized forum stickies, either: I should be able to click "Documentation" in the menu, then select my device, and select a category of subject matter. Too many posts buried in a 100 page thread! I'm generally very forgiving when it comes to documentation, but this needs to be better for a $160 grip or a $300 base!

Edited December 22, 2017 by aaron886

[RFC Rudel]

This information needs to be part of clear documentation in a well-organized and easy to find documentation/instruction section on your website. Nobody should have to hunt through pages of unorganized forum stickies, either: I should be able to click "Documentation" in the menu, then select my device, and select a category of subject matter. Too many posts buried in a 100 page thread! I'm generally very forgiving when it comes to documentation, but this needs to be better for a $160 grip or a $300 base!

 

 

 

 

vkb forum have dedicated section Manuals and Howtos

 

 

How to Calibrate your Gunfighter w/ MCG/MCG PRO correctly

 

 

http://forum.vkb-sim.pro/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2853

[rrohde]

This is just posted here as-is. There's a dedicated howto section over at the official VKB HQ forum as well.

 

My post above is not an official VKB HQ document, merely a heads-up. Nobody expects a forum post buried in 100 pages to be more than that. :)

[hawka]

Wizzo

 

VKB give a choice of 2 programmes to calibrate, what is the advantage of one over the other please.