Mirage landing trouble

[Frank00]

since last open beta 1.5 updtate the Mirage have sometime a very strange reaction after landing. When you're pulling to the stick near 100kts the aircraft is going vertical before falling on the tail. It's very strange and for my part I prefer the flight model just before.

[The_Tau]

At 100 knots? I thinks falling like a rock at that speed for delta wing is correct response :P

[myHelljumper]

If I understand you correctly your problem is happening after you have touched down at the end of your aero-breaking maneuver.

 

At 100kt the aircraft does not have enough control to maintain the attitude so if you let the stick go the nose will fall down but if you pull on the stick you will tail strike. This is normal behavior to me.

 

When you are around 110-115kt you should push the stick to make your nose wheel touch before the 100kt mark.

[Winterz]

Yeah, you have to put the nose down before reaching 100 knots.

 

 

As said by myHelljumper, doing it gently at 110-115kt should prevent breaking something.

[=Pedro=]

When you are around 110-115kt you should push the stick to make your nose wheel touch before the 100kt mark.

 

Indeed:thumbup:

[Frank00]

I must let the nose wheel going down before 100 kts but not pushing for this. And the thing who's is coming is not natural because the aircraft is restarting in the air totaly verticaly alone without throttle or anything else.... That the problem, they're some other guys on another forum who have the same problem.

[myHelljumper]

I can't understand what you are talking about, you start a mission and the aircraft is not powered up and is dropping from the sky ?

[Frank00]

I can't understand what you are talking about, you start a mission and the aircraft is not powered up and is dropping from the sky ?

 

No this happend when I've landed after a mission when the speed reach 100/110 kts and when the nose is going down to touch the runway I pull gently on the stick to have the kiss landing with the nose wheel. And when I do this the aircraft is going verticaly and take some feet above the ground before falling on the tail.... It's a bug not a pilot error. :smilewink::smilewink:

[myHelljumper]

Can you post a track so we can better understand the issue :).

[david.lind]

I'm guessing he's describing a aggressive variant of this.

 

 

For me it feel's like there is a spring instead of a dampener in the nose gear.

[myHelljumper]

Never had such a problem, is it only happening on NTTR ?

[BadHabit]

This is happening to me also.. https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ar3g7DvN5ZPdhytIpxVMQ8u1vZbJ

[Frank00]

I'm guessing he's describing a aggressive variant of this.

 

 

For me it feel's like there is a spring instead of a dampener in the nose gear.

 

Yes exactly that but the airraft is going directly in the air and take some feet...

[Frank00]

This is happening to me also.. https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ar3g7DvN5ZPdhytIpxVMQ8u1vZbJ

 

I can't read your acmi file :( :( it's seen to be zipped I rename it and inside I've one file called Tacview-20170402-113836-DCS-Caucasus M-2000C Landing.txt.acmi but this can not be readed by tacview....

[BadHabit]

I can't read your acmi file :( :( it's seen to be zipped I rename it and inside I've one file called Tacview-20170402-113836-DCS-Caucasus M-2000C Landing.txt.acmi but this can not be readed by tacview....

Download TacView. http://www.tacview.net/

maybe you are running an older version

 

[url=http://www.tacview.net/][/url]

[Frank00]

Download TacView. http://www.tacview.net/

maybe you are running an older version

 

[url=http://www.tacview.net/][/url]

 

 

I have a too old version. I've installed the new one and everything is ok :thumbup: Thanks to you

[david.lind]

Never had such a problem, is it only happening on NTTR ?

 

yeah think so, or that's the only place I recall scraping the butt. :music_whistling:

[Frank00]

No it's on the 1.5 open beta...

[BadHabit]

Forcing the nose down at about 115 knots, that some guys mentioned above, will keep the nose wheel intact tho!

[Frank00]

Forcing the nose down at about 115 knots, that some guys mentioned above, will keep the nose wheel intact tho!

 

Yes but it's not a real feeling to push down the nose wheel :smilewink:

[razo+r]

Yes but it's not a real feeling to push down the nose wheel :smilewink:

 

then wait for it to come down by itself with neutral stick and when it comes down, pull to not let it hit the ground too hard

[scudrunner]

I'm guessing he's describing a aggressive variant of this.

 

 

For me it feel's like there is a spring instead of a dampener in the nose gear.

 

 

This is happening to me since Friday's update, and I've been flying a lot of the Mirage lately (teaching a buddy landings, actually).

[Frank00]

then wait for it to come down by itself with neutral stick and when it comes down, pull to not let it hit the ground too hard

 

It's what I did but when you're pulling gently on the stick the aircraft bounce on the ground and go again in the air verticaly take some feet and crash on the tail and this at a speed near 100/110 and less than that when crashing on the tail.... It's a bug thrust me :smilewink:

[bever]

I agree with Frank, since the update the mirage is almost impossible to land, after touch down when lowering the nose wheel the AC jumps up and goes vertical...no pilot error..could land it before......

[mr_mojo97]

I had this today actually at Nellis and never had it before. I actually thought it was related to the Approach hold function (I've never used it before) and as soon as I touched down the jet went vertical and then landed on its arse and bounced all over the place before ejecting. Funny but weird. Wish I had a track but I don't.