1.5.7 and "Joysticks without spring and FFB" trim mode

[Holton181]

Been flying since BS1 but have never made a video. Don't have any software for it either, if it's not natively supported by DCSW.

But I'll look into it next time I get the opportunity to enter my cockpit (to seldom nowadays)

[docWilly]

For joystick user with Warthog Hotas I recommend Central Timmer Mode. Less oscillation, smoother inputs.

[lefty1117]

I'm using a Saitek X-55, with the lightest spring I have, and I definitely follow the "hold the trimmer" school of flying. This has been an informative thread, now all the various advice I've seen makes sense. And it makes me want to try flying with a FFB stick some day! So I guess the short version is:

 

1. If you have a stick w/ spring, hold the trimmer!

2. If you have a FFB stick, tap the trimmer!

 

Do I have it right?

[Ranma13]

Yep, that's correct. If you have a FFB stick, you'll notice right away why holding the trimmer is not a good idea: the entire joystick goes limp.

[Penshoon]

I use a FFB stick with Simffb with friction & damping effects separated from trim spring forces so it doesn't go limp when depressing trim (what I assume real stick does as well) and I use both methods all the time.

 

Click trimming when flying stable with minor stick deflection and depressing button in transient conditions to prevent over swinging.

I don't have that controls indicator on in this video but you can hear the trim button pretty well being depressed mostly.

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[Ranma13]

In the real helicopter, if you hold down the trim button, the force is removed. The difference with using simFFB is that it's using 3 different forces: spring, damper, and friction. When you hold down the trim button, the spring force is removed, but the damper and friction forces still remain. DCS only uses the spring force, so holding down the trim button will remove all force on the stick.

[finch]

I use a FFB stick with Simffb with friction & damping effects separated from trim spring forces so it doesn't go limp when depressing trim (what I assume real stick does as well) and I use both methods all the time.

 

Click trimming when flying stable with minor stick deflection and depressing button in transient conditions to prevent over swinging.

I don't have that controls indicator on in this video but you can hear the trim button pretty well being depressed mostly.

 

can you post your simFFB settings? thanks

[Penshoon]

can you post your simFFB settings? thanks

 

[finch]

:helpsmilie:thanks, I have a MSFFB2

[VirusAM]

Sorry...but i don't understand how this program work.

I want to have the trim with g940 and dcs aircraft...but i don't understand how a single button (i can only select a key press and not 2 or 4 like a trim hat) can manage the trim.

Can someone explain this?

[Holton181]

Sorry...but i don't understand how this program work.

I want to have the trim with g940 and dcs aircraft...but i don't understand how a single button (i can only select a key press and not 2 or 4 like a trim hat) can manage the trim.

Can someone explain this?

It's not as some other aircraft where you adjust your trim with the hat. You simply use the trim button to tell the aircraft where you want the relaxed (i.e. no spring forces) position of your cyclic to be, and to send controller data to the autopilot. To adjust, you do it with your controllers and retrim. How to actually perform the trim has been debated endlessly since the dawn of Black Shark 1. You can find numerous threads about different methods you can try, and ther is always people promoting one or the other as "the best", but in the end it's all about personal preferences.

[VirusAM]

1.5.7 and "Joysticks without spring and FFB" trim mode

 

Sorry but i am not talking about helicopters...I don’t own any of them.

i am asking about the simffb program regarding g940 and aircraft like the Hornet.

Excuse me, now i saw that this is a blackshark 2 thread. But it showed up only because i searched for simffb and trim as i am looking for a way to have the stick move with the trim like with other aircraft

Edited December 19, 2018 by VirusAM

[Holton181]

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Happens the best of us ;-)

I'm basically a helicopter exclusive pilot with the Viggen as the only exception. And I don't use a FFB. So I can offer little help. Good luck though.