Gtx 1080 realy needes

[BlueMax]

Just a short question: do i realy need a 1080 if i play only flight sims?

[razo+r]

No.

[Simicro]

do i realy need a 1080 if i play only flight sims?

 

Really?

 

No.

 

It is nice have but not must have.

[BlueMax]

Really?

 

No.

 

It is nice have but not must have.

 

To continue the old discussion : i want to use DCS and another " civilian " flight sim, i don t play any egoshooters or stuff like that with magic swords and virgin tomatoes in space... just flight sim...

 

now, i would be able to get 1080 AND a 27" 2k monitor with 75 hz..( asus )... and i could get the 1070 with a slightly better monitor :-)

 

and thats the 2 to buy or not to buy " question :-) realy hard to decide atm

[Simicro]

I remember the old discussion ;)

 

I would say that in both cases you will be fine.

 

2K, 75hz is a good choice, 1070 or 1080 too.

 

What are the specs of what you call "slightly better monitor"?

[Barefoot Bandit]

It's not so much a "need", as a "want". Int he same sort of way as I didn't need a 1080Ti...

 

Z...

[BlueMax]

Exact..i guess its more a want.. a friend of mine told, that for DCS my 960 4gb is more than enough and also for other civilian FS... i have around 75 to 90 fps in dcs... in urban terrain it drops to 40 but thats ok i guess... and 2.5 is not even close of release, no tec spezifications of : this you need..realy hard to decide

[BlueMax]

I remember the old discussion ;)

 

I would say that in both cases you will be fine.

 

2K, 75hz is a good choice, 1070 or 1080 too.

 

What are the specs of what you call "slightly better monitor"?

 

was a samsung 4k monitor but only 60hz ...the asus alternative has 75hz 2k...

[amazingme]

Go for the 1080 and 75Hz monitor. The more fps the merrier.. Besides the fps, the higher resolution will bring difficulties in spotting.. just read the forums. Then, you can thank me for the choice. ;)

[Abburo]

It depends only about how immersive you want to be.

In 4K I found my 8Gb VRAM to be fully used and for sure the 1080TI with 11Gb will be more appropriate. If you are not so keen to have full details then you can happily go for 1070.. but the one with 8Gb of ram as well.

Other sims will also use VRAM to the upper limits due to their high amount of texture used.

[BlueMax]

Go for the 1080 and 75Hz monitor. The more fps the merrier.. Besides the fps, the higher resolution will bring difficulties in spotting.. just read the forums. Then, you can thank me for the choice. ;)

 

k..any link about those probs with higher res and spotting ?

[amazingme]

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3259094&postcount=3

[BlueMax]

It depends only about how immersive you want to be.

In 4K I found my 8Gb VRAM to be fully used and for sure the 1080TI with 11Gb will be more appropriate. If you are not so keen to have full details then you can happily go for 1070.. but the one with 8Gb of ram as well.

Other sims will also use VRAM to the upper limits due to their high amount of texture used.

 

k.. don t know if it was right or not ( cause everybody tells something else :-) ) i ordered the palit gtx 1080 gamerock... and with monitor i will look some time later.. i know, atm it is overkill but like that i am ready for a better monitor ( i hope ?) thanks for infos

[Simicro]

i ordered the palit gtx 1080 gamerock... and with monitor i will look some time later.. i know, atm it is overkill but like that i am ready for a better monitor ( i hope ?)

 

Yes you are.

 

was a samsung 4k monitor but only 60hz ...the asus alternative has 75hz 2k...

 

I would take the 75 Hz 2K

[amazingme]

k.. don t know if it was right or not ( cause everybody tells something else :-) ) i ordered the palit gtx 1080 gamerock... and with monitor i will look some time later.. i know, atm it is overkill but like that i am ready for a better monitor ( i hope ?) thanks for infos

There is no such thing as 'too much compute power' when it comes to flight sims.

[BlueMax]

Yes you are.

 

 

 

I would take the 75 Hz 2K

 

 

Thanks, i read, that many gamers prefer 1920*1080 with 144hz and 1ms... i guess for real 4 k i would need a 1080 11gb or ti or whatever ...abd a monster of screen, otherwise i will not have a benefit of 4k... just read about widescreen ...perhaps interesting alternative

[BlueMax]

There is no such thing as 'too much compute power' when it comes to flight sims.

 

May be mate, may be.. but there is a too much sim for the wallet :-) lets be serious : fighting falcon once was playable on a atari st.. and it was damn good.. even the graphics... funny small screens :-)... today there is more comp power at home than it was in norad in the early sixties :-) i guess this all is going into the complete WRONG direction, or you focus only an 2 or 3 handfull " i pay whatever users 2... but then u are not far away from space games with 14k bucks payed in advance :-) and tbh i see the same tendency here : now they start to combine modules with grips ( f14 ) they promote ultra expensive hotas and throttles... soon they will sell used turbo engines and ejection seats and in final version some decade later u will feel the impact of a sidewinder in the backseat or what ? ...sorry... too much is too much :-)... and the 1080 and nice standalone solution for me... have a nice gaming mate, and don t forget : its a GAME :pilotfly::pilotfly::joystick::D

[Simicro]

Thanks, i read, that many gamers prefer 1920*1080 with 144hz and 1ms... i guess for real 4 k i would need a 1080 11gb or ti or whatever ...abd a monster of screen, otherwise i will not have a benefit of 4k... just read about widescreen ...perhaps interesting alternative

 

Gamers prefer 1920*1080 with 144hz and 1ms: indeed, and especially First Person Shooter gamers who play multiplayer because they need very high fps to react fast.

 

For us flightsimmers, I think that 60-75 fps does already provide a great flight experience.

 

Some won't agree but for me PCs and graphic cards are not mature yet (powerful enough) for 4K, with gaming/simming purposes, and in comfortable conditions.

 

Furthermore if you go 2K, you will be able to keep your graphic card longer without having to upgrade.

 

And going from Full HD to 2K is already a huge leap forward. I did the jump laterly and landscape, aircraft 3D models and cockpit gauges look so much nicer and sharper!

[amazingme]

May be mate, may be.. but there is a too much sim for the wallet :-) lets be serious : fighting falcon once was playable on a atari st.. and it was damn good.. even the graphics... funny small screens :-)... today there is more comp power at home than it was in norad in the early sixties :-) i guess this all is going into the complete WRONG direction, or you focus only an 2 or 3 handfull " i pay whatever users 2... but then u are not far away from space games with 14k bucks payed in advance :-) and tbh i see the same tendency here : now they start to combine modules with grips ( f14 ) they promote ultra expensive hotas and throttles... soon they will sell used turbo engines and ejection seats and in final version some decade later u will feel the impact of a sidewinder in the backseat or what ? ...sorry... too much is too much :-)... and the 1080 and nice standalone solution for me... have a nice gaming mate, and don t forget : its a GAME :pilotfly::pilotfly::joystick::D

 

Moore's law, even if it's an observational law, is still valid today and probably will continue to be correct for a decade or two, but, as we can see Intel slowing down and changing the tick-tock model, we'll see new processors on the market at a significant slower pace than the '70s, as you mentioned. On the other hand, the programmers actually have the software tools to extract every bit of performance from any CPU or GPU, for that matter. So, be prepared to spend more on both hw upgrades and DCS modules, because this will be the 'not so far' future.. until they'll run out of atoms.. then we'll see..

 

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[Abburo]

Thanks, i read, that many gamers prefer 1920*1080 with 144hz and 1ms... i guess for real 4 k i would need a 1080 11gb or ti or whatever ...abd a monster of screen, otherwise i will not have a benefit of 4k... just read about widescreen ...perhaps interesting alternative

 

If you ask me the monitor preferences then the order would be:

 

1. 2k 144HZ 27" - tested personally best balance for resolution/size/compute power/price

2. 21:9 - 3840x1440 - 100Hz - next gaming wise monitor

3. 4K - bigger than 28" - even it have a great image quality is not really the most appropriate for gaming - tested personally

[BlueMax]

Moore's law, even if it's an observational law, is still valid today and probably will continue to be correct for a decade or two, but, as we can see Intel slowing down and changing the tick-tock model, we'll see new processors on the market at a significant slower pace than the '70s, as you mentioned. On the other hand, the programmers actually have the software tools to extract every bit of performance from any CPU or GPU, for that matter. So, be prepared to spend more on both hw upgrades and DCS modules, because this will be the 'not so far' future.. until they'll run out of atoms.. then we'll see..

 

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let them, let them take out the even las micron.. but i, personally, will NOT follow... i have enough modules.. may be a upcoming F4 would be interesting and then FINISH . if this is becoming a game for russian oligarchs.. ok... then let play and buy oligarchs :-) very easy... but its a trap, you know... only a customer of whom you are not shure, what and where he will buy, is an interesting customers, the other ones are cows which you milk :-) realy wish you much fun with the game and mostlyx with LIFE :-)

[BlueMax]

Gamers prefer 1920*1080 with 144hz and 1ms: indeed, and especially First Person Shooter gamers who play multiplayer because they need very high fps to react fast.

 

For us flightsimmers, I think that 60-75 fps does already provide a great flight experience.

 

Some won't agree but for me PCs and graphic cards are not mature yet (powerful enough) for 4K, with gaming/simming purposes, and in comfortable conditions.

 

Furthermore if you go 2K, you will be able to keep your graphic card longer without having to upgrade.

 

And going from Full HD to 2K is already a huge leap forward. I did the jump laterly and landscape, aircraft 3D models and cockpit gauges look so much nicer and sharper!

 

 

I got a nice card now... and for monitor, i will see, if i will play civilian flight sims also...xplane11 f.e. IF, ok, then may be i will get something special..otherwise.. don t think so...i m realy not such a nerd with simpit, special seats and a complete floor with only VR around me... it s just some nice entertainement... thats all, and still a game..

[Simicro]

I got a nice card now... and for monitor, i will see

 

Sure I understand.

 

Enjoy your new graphic card mate :)

 

i m realy not such a nerd with simpit, special seats and a complete floor with only VR around me...

 

Same here ;) I use a regular desk and a regular chair.

[amazingme]

let them, let them take out the even las micron.. but i, personally, will NOT follow... i have enough modules.. may be a upcoming F4 would be interesting and then FINISH . if this is becoming a game for russian oligarchs.. ok... then let play and buy oligarchs :-) very easy... but its a trap, you know... only a customer of whom you are not shure, what and where he will buy, is an interesting customers, the other ones are cows which you milk :-) realy wish you much fun with the game and mostlyx with LIFE :-)

I personally dreamt about this kind of simulation since the '90s and when I first tried the black shark I instantly knew this was another kind of monster different from what I previously experienced. I would buy ED stock shares if I could.. and maybe ED should consider this hypothesis to expand its social capital.

 

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[BlueMax]

Sure I understand.

 

Enjoy your new graphic card mate :)

 

 

 

Same here ;) I use a regular desk and a regular chair.

 

Can you imagine , i am afraid to built this monster in... ok.. it wil fit perfect into the fractal case with the blue light.. but i can t open it :-) but it is here... i HOPE i will enjoy it, and not screeming : why the hell did i buy this graphic card :-)