Spudknocker Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 Hey guys I’ve been curious as to what capabilities we are getting are standard in the Lot 20 F/A-18C Hornet and what are after market upgrades. I’m guessing the JHMCS and 9X capability are upgrades as Legacy Hornet production ended in the late 90’s. But what other capabilities and systems are native to the Lot 20 Hornet vs later upgrades? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Spudknocker DCS World YouTube Channel!! RTX 2080 Ti - i7-7700K - 32GB RAM - DCS on 1TB EVO 970 M.2 SSD - Logitech X56 HOTAS
VMFA117_Poko Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3285514&postcount=13
Spudknocker Posted February 17, 2018 Author Posted February 17, 2018 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3285514&postcount=13 I have seen this post many many times what I am curious about is if the jet when it is feature complete is a F/A-18C or F/A-18C+ and what capabilities come standard from the factory for lot 20 Hornets and what is an upgrade to the jet. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Spudknocker DCS World YouTube Channel!! RTX 2080 Ti - i7-7700K - 32GB RAM - DCS on 1TB EVO 970 M.2 SSD - Logitech X56 HOTAS
Spudknocker Posted February 17, 2018 Author Posted February 17, 2018 https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3285514&postcount=13 I have seen this post many many times what I am curious about is if the jet when it is feature complete is a F/A-18C or F/A-18C+ and what capabilities come standard from the factory for lot 20 Hornets and what is an upgrade to the jet. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Spudknocker DCS World YouTube Channel!! RTX 2080 Ti - i7-7700K - 32GB RAM - DCS on 1TB EVO 970 M.2 SSD - Logitech X56 HOTAS
Weasel Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) Iirc the F/A-18C+ is an upgrade for some USMC Hornets. We get the legacy USN hornet lot 20 Here you find more information about the upgrade of the USMC F/A-18C+ https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2016-06-10/boeing-restores-30-f/18c-models-marine-corps?amp Edited February 17, 2018 by Weasel
SkateZilla Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) Hey guys I’ve been curious as to what capabilities we are getting are standard in the Lot 20 F/A-18C Hornet and what are after market upgrades. I’m guessing the JHMCS and 9X capability are upgrades as Legacy Hornet production ended in the late 90’s. But what other capabilities and systems are native to the Lot 20 Hornet vs later upgrades? DCS: F/A-18C is a Lot 20 F/A-18C F/A-18C+ has Upgraded Avionics, Radar, Cockpit (Super Hornet Cockpit) and SMS Edited February 17, 2018 by SkateZilla 1 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Spudknocker Posted February 17, 2018 Author Posted February 17, 2018 DCS: F/A-18C is a Lot 20 F/A-18C F/A-18C+ has Upgraded Avionics, Radar, Cockpit (Super Hornet Cockpit) and SMS Ohhhh! Ok I didnt realize a C+ had a super hornet cockpit with a touch screen UFC and all of that stuff! did the lot 20 Charlie hornets have JHMCS built into them or is that an upgrade? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Spudknocker DCS World YouTube Channel!! RTX 2080 Ti - i7-7700K - 32GB RAM - DCS on 1TB EVO 970 M.2 SSD - Logitech X56 HOTAS
SkateZilla Posted February 17, 2018 Posted February 17, 2018 Ohhhh! Ok I didnt realize a C+ had a super hornet cockpit with a touch screen UFC and all of that stuff! did the lot 20 Charlie hornets have JHMCS built into them or is that an upgrade? Upgraded to JHMCS Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Alfa Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 (edited) Hey guys I’ve been curious as to what capabilities we are getting are standard in the Lot 20 F/A-18C Hornet and what are after market upgrades. I’m guessing the JHMCS and 9X capability are upgrades as Legacy Hornet production ended in the late 90’s. But what other capabilities and systems are native to the Lot 20 Hornet vs later upgrades? Aside from the JHMCS and AIM-9X that you mentioned, other post-production upgrades comprise the AMPCD(an LCD based replacement for the MPCD), ATFLIR and OFP 13C(software upgrade) to name some. Figuring out the "native" Lot 20 capabilities is a little more tricky, as these are an accumulation of upgrades performed throughout the production years - I have attached a summary of the F-18C evolution from Lot 12 to the last production config(Lot 21) . Edited February 18, 2018 by Alfa double quote JJ
Kev2go Posted February 18, 2018 Posted February 18, 2018 Aside from the JHMCS and AIM-9X that you mentioned, other post-production upgrades comprise the AMPCD(an LCD based replacement for the MPCD), ATFLIR and OFP 13C(software upgrade) to name some. Figuring out the "native" Lot 20 capabilities is a little more tricky, as these are an accumulation of upgrades performed throughout the production years - I have attached a summary of the F-18C evolution from Lot 12 to the last production config(Lot 21) . differences of the Lot production were also shared some time ago. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2919850&postcount=761 Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD
muehlema Posted February 21, 2018 Posted February 21, 2018 differences of the Lot production were also shared some time ago. https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2919850&postcount=761 Thanks, nice list. Actually Swiss Air Force variant is not listed there. We do have meanwhile AIM-9X in use and the cockpit of our F-18C/D does feature the SuperHornet interior. ;) If this could be modelled, that would be awesome :) X-Plane 11.5x / DCS 2.5.6 / P3Dv5 / Aerofly FS 2 / War Thunder Win10-x64 | ASUS Z390 Maximus VI | Intel i7-9700K @3.6GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB DDR4 | 6TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro | 2TB M2 PCI 4x | ASUS GTX 1080 ROG STRIX 8GB DDR5X | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | Oculus Rift S
Kev2go Posted February 21, 2018 Posted February 21, 2018 Thanks, nice list. Actually Swiss Air Force variant is not listed there. We do have meanwhile AIM-9X in use and the cockpit of our F-18C/D does feature the SuperHornet interior. ;) If this could be modelled, that would be awesome :) Because Swiss version is different post production mod. The list was focused on productions made for USA. Especially since ed has said the fa18 lot 20 will be based on a us navy hornet. Not a iMac one or any foreign service version even if they are including some skins of export users Build: Windows 10 64 bit Pro Case/Tower: Corsair Graphite 760tm ,Asus Strix Z790 Motherboard, Intel Core i7 12700k ,Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 64gb ram (3600 mhz) , (Asus strix oc edition) Nvidia RTX 3080 12gb , Evga g2 850 watt psu, Hardrives ; Samsung 970 EVo, , Samsung evo 860 pro 1 TB SSD, Samsung evo 850 pro 1TB SSD, WD 1TB HDD
SkateZilla Posted February 21, 2018 Posted February 21, 2018 Because those Lots to not cover Exports Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
mig29movt Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 Thanks, nice list. Actually Swiss Air Force variant is not listed there. We do have meanwhile AIM-9X in use and the cockpit of our F-18C/D does feature the SuperHornet interior. ;) If this could be modelled, that would be awesome :) Did they change the RWR as well (to AN/ALR-XY)? Because the RWR-Display is removed [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Waiting to build a F/A-18C home-pit... ex - Swiss Air Force Pilatus PC-21 Ground Crew SFM? AFM? EFM?? What's this? i7-5960X (8 core @3.00GHz)¦32GB DDR4 RAM¦Asus X99-WS/IPMI¦2x GTX970 4GB SLI¦Samsung 850 PRO 512GB SSD¦TrackIR 5 Pro¦TM Warthog¦MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals
SkateZilla Posted February 22, 2018 Posted February 22, 2018 (edited) I believe it was moved to the displays and HUD, Like the Super Hornet, the Swiss Upgrade 25 Program added a New ALR-67v3 Among MANY other upgrades to their F/A-18s. Edited February 22, 2018 by SkateZilla Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Bad_Karma-701 Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) IT.. would be nice If ED Upgraded the Lot 20 to the C+ or their "version" if certain aspects of the C+ are unavailable or classified. maybe some sort of "Frankenhornet" mix of C+ and the Swiss Upgrade 25 Program. But I am excited either way to fly the Hornet. especially once the the Syria terrain is released. Edited February 23, 2018 by Bad_Karma-701 Rift CV1: i-7 8700 RTX 2070 16GB 3200mhz win10. M.2 128gb GB Z390 Aurous Master. warthog stick on Gunfighter Base
Paradox Posted February 23, 2018 Posted February 23, 2018 The hornet we're getting is very nearly the best version of the legacy hornet you can get so I'd be happy with it. The Swiss ones have a load of structural strengthening that adds weight too so I think this one should be the most potent fighter hornet there is.
SkateZilla Posted February 24, 2018 Posted February 24, 2018 ED is Modelling the USN Lot 20, Not an Export / Non-Domestic Version that was built in Switzerland Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs
Alfa Posted February 25, 2018 Posted February 25, 2018 Ironically enough I believe it was the other way around originally. I remember seeing a Swiss placard with a Swiss model number in the early screenshots of the F/A-18 cockpit. IIRC it was actually a Spanish placard, but same difference :) . In fairness though, they(ED) have said all along that they were going to model a US version and kept saying not to pay attention to the cockpit details of early screenshots. JJ
mig29movt Posted February 26, 2018 Posted February 26, 2018 It was a Spanish placard, but that would have been a heavily modified A verison of the Hornet [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Waiting to build a F/A-18C home-pit... ex - Swiss Air Force Pilatus PC-21 Ground Crew SFM? AFM? EFM?? What's this? i7-5960X (8 core @3.00GHz)¦32GB DDR4 RAM¦Asus X99-WS/IPMI¦2x GTX970 4GB SLI¦Samsung 850 PRO 512GB SSD¦TrackIR 5 Pro¦TM Warthog¦MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals
muehlema Posted February 27, 2018 Posted February 27, 2018 I believe it was moved to the displays and HUD, Like the Super Hornet, the Swiss Upgrade 25 Program added a New ALR-67v3 Among MANY other upgrades to their F/A-18s. Correct X-Plane 11.5x / DCS 2.5.6 / P3Dv5 / Aerofly FS 2 / War Thunder Win10-x64 | ASUS Z390 Maximus VI | Intel i7-9700K @3.6GHz | Corsair Vengeance LPX 32 GB DDR4 | 6TB SSD Samsung 850 Pro | 2TB M2 PCI 4x | ASUS GTX 1080 ROG STRIX 8GB DDR5X | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Combat Pedals | Oculus Rift S
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