Labels on the first training mission?

[EmilDamian]

Hi,

 

I cannot enable tooltips on the first training mission of M-2000C.

In VR the texts are very small and hard to read.

Some tooltips will help.

 

Anyone knows how to enable them?

Is this a bug?

 

Thank you,

 

 

EmilD

Edited March 8, 2018 by EmilDamian

[baltic_dragon]

Hey, I will try if these are not forced to OFF, if they are I will fix it.

[ram0506]

Can confirm this. Tool tips in cockpit are not working in first training mission.

Thanks or having a look on it, baltic dragon! Especially in the first mission the tool tips are essential for cockpit familiarization.

[Ramsay]

Hey, I will try if these are not forced to OFF, if they are I will fix it.

 

TL;DR: Tooltips need to be forced ON to work.

 

Detail:

 

̶U̶n̶f̶o̶r̶t̶u̶n̶a̶t̶e̶l̶y̶,̶ ̶i̶t̶'̶s̶ ̶n̶o̶t̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶s̶i̶m̶p̶l̶e̶ ̶a̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶l̶a̶b̶e̶l̶s̶ ̶s̶e̶t̶t̶i̶n̶g̶.̶

 

• The training missions have cockpit switch 'tool tips' when run as a standalone mission but not if run from the DCS 'Training' menu.

 

ED know how to get them working as both their A-10C and L-39C training missions have working 'tool tips'.

 

AFAIK other dev's training missions are similarly effected i.e. BST's F-5E

 

Example Missions tested in 2.5.0.14304, but it's not a new issue.

 

Cockpit 'tool tips' working from training menu

• A-10C-Training-Start-Up.miz

• L39-Training-1-Start-Taxi-TO.miz

 

Cockpit 'tool tips' NOT working from training menu

• F-5E Training - Cold Start - Taxi - Takeoff.miz

• M2K Training 01 FINAL.miz

 

Edit:

Looks like 'tool tips' need to be forced ON in the mission's options for them to show from the DCS 'Training' menu

 

 

Strange that 'Tooltips=OFF' is the default for DCS's training missions (perhaps a bug?) but it is, what it is.

 

M2K Training 01 FINAL.miz - 'options' file

["difficulty"] = 
   {
       ["padlock"] = false,
       ["labels"] = false,
       ["easyCommunication"] = false,
       ["easyRadar"] = false,
       ["fuel"] = false,
       ["miniHUD"] = false,
       ["tips"] = false,
       ["birds"] = 100,
       ["optionsView"] = "optview_all",
       ["permitCrash"] = false,
       ["immortal"] = false,
       ["cockpitStatusBarAllowed"] = false,
       ["cockpitVisualRM"] = false,
       ["easyFlight"] = false,
       ["reports"] = true,
       ["hideStick"] = false,
       ["radio"] = false,
       ["externalViews"] = true,
       ["units"] = "imperial",
       ["userMarks"] = true,
       ["cockpitLanguage"] = "english",
       ["spectatorExternalViews"] = true,
       ["userSnapView"] = true,
       ["avionicsLanguage"] = "native",
       ["impostors"] = "",
       ["iconsTheme"] = "nato",
       ["map"] = true,
       ["weapons"] = false,
       ["setGlobal"] = false,
       ["geffect"] = "realistic",
   }, -- end of ["difficulty"]

 

A-10C-Training-Start-Up.miz - 'options' file

 

["difficulty"] = 
   {
       ["fuel"] = false,
       ["labels"] = true,
       ["easyRadar"] = false,
       ["cockpitStatusBarAllowed"] = false,
       ["miniHUD"] = false,
       ["map"] = true,
       ["birds"] = 600,
       ["optionsView"] = "optview_all",
       ["permitCrash"] = false,
       ["immortal"] = false,
       ["easyCommunication"] = false,
       ["cockpitVisualRM"] = false,
       ["tips"] = true,
       ["reports"] = false,
       ["hideStick"] = false,
       ["radio"] = false,
       ["easyFlight"] = false,
       ["externalViews"] = true,
       ["avionicsLanguage"] = "native",
       ["userSnapView"] = true,
       ["units"] = "metric",
       ["userMarks"] = true,
       ["spectatorExternalViews"] = true,
       ["impostors"] = "",
       ["iconsTheme"] = "nato",
       ["setGlobal"] = true,
       ["weapons"] = false,
       ["padlock"] = false,
       ["geffect"] = "realistic",
   }, -- end of ["difficulty"]

Edited March 1, 2018 by Ramsay
Find enforcing 'Tooltips'=ON fixes missing switch tooltips

[baltic_dragon]

Many thanks, that will make my work much easier :)

[EmilDamian]

Thank you Baltic Dragon for your fast reaction.

[baltic_dragon]

Hey guys, I have just checked it - the tool tips are enforced in all of the missions by default. Still, they do not work under training menu (they only do if launched as separate missions). I will try to inquire with ED how to fix that, nothing I can do in the meantime I guess :(

[Ramsay]

Still, they do not work under training menu (they only do if launched as separate missions).

 

The 1st mission works for me after enforcing 'tooltips' = ON and copying the file to 'DCSWorld\Mods\aircraft\M-2000C\Missions\Training\M2K Training 01 FINAL.miz'

 

I'll attach the edited file and link a video later once I've installed Shadowplay (might take awhile to encode/upload as I have low bandwidth).

 

I'm on Steam DCS 2.5.0.14304 but don't think it should make a difference.

Edited March 1, 2018 by Ramsay

[Ramsay]

Hey guys, I have just checked it - the tool tips are enforced in all of the missions by default.

 

Most of the 2.5.0.14304 training missions have working tooltips, it's only the 1st and and 8th

 

• M2K Training 01 FINAL.miz

 

and

 

• M2K Training 08 CCRP FINAL.miz

 

that don't.

 

Checking the 'options' file in 08, it too has

["tips"] = false

 

Hope that helps - It was confusing when I tried to record none working tooltips in 'M2K Training 02' but they worked without any editing on my part :huh:

 

Edited March 2, 2018 by Ramsay

[DieHard]

re: Message #8

 

The 1st mission works for me after enforcing 'tooltips' = ON and copying the file to 'DCSWorld\Mods\aircraft\M-2000C\Missions\Training\M2K Training 01 FINAL.miz'

 

I'll attach the edited file and link a video later once I've installed Shadowplay (might take awhile to encode/upload as I have low bandwidth).

 

I'm on Steam DCS 2.5.0.14304 but don't think it should make a difference.

 

About the time you guys started this thread I decided to setup the Mirage controllers and learn this thing. Have had the Mirage awhile before the English translated cockpit. I put this module's learning curve on hold until recently.

 

Yes, 1st training mission is a bear to learn without easy access to the tool tips. At least I have access to my tablet loaded with Chuck's guide and used as knee-board.

 

Thank you very much for that .zip file. Boy, that sure saved me some time to modify Training Mission #1 .

 

And this guy's English translated cockpit still is working in 2.5.1 OpenBeta https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/1703066/

 

At age 66, learning new stuff is not as easy as it used to be. Any added helps are much appreciated by me.

 

Cheers!!

Edited May 2, 2018 by DieHard

[baltic_dragon]

Hey guys, sorry - updating it slipped my mind (had a lots of things happening recently, including a birth of a son - finally!. I will fix this and make it ready for the next update.