RvETito Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 Now you have angered the great evil and now people won't stop until they made 20 Ka-50's flying in formation :P They can go even bigger numbers, no problem. I just pointed out that IRL the Ka-50 works in small groups, that doesn't mean that it can't go in massive attack like the whole regiment airborne :) "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
RvETito Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 it could happen!:lol: of course I have no idea how the sim will play out online, but isn't it possible that someone might come up with a coop with 20 slots? as for that number being unrealistic, well OK. the idea of "clouds" of BS choppers descending on a convoy is a bit much. I was having a bit of fun with that idea. no need to rain on my litte parade, Tito. ;) Flyby You'll be more than welcome to do anything you want in BS, my friend ;) A parade? Hmm, that's not a bad idea at all... ;D "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
Avimimus Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 it could happen!:lol: of course I have no idea how the sim will play out online, but isn't it possible that someone might come up with a coop with 20 slots? as for that number being unrealistic, well OK. the idea of "clouds" of BS choppers descending on a convoy is a bit much. I was having a bit of fun with that idea. no need to rain on my litte parade, Tito. ;) Flyby If anti-aircraft fire is not totally suppressed (as would be the case if hinds were to be deployed) then it would make sense for Ka-50s to operate in groups of four or more pairs. The larger numbers would allow simultaneous targeting and engagement of all vehicles in a LOS, preventing effective retalitation by air defense units. 20+ helicopters, Pop-up attacks at 8km and overkill...
Flyby Posted August 16, 2007 Posted August 16, 2007 OK, ok. You guys made yer points. when it rains, it pours. I guess fratricide would be a definite possibility with so many choppers in the air, which means I won't be seeing you guys in large formations, eh? pity (j/k) Flyby The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
Weta43 Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 AirTito - This http://forum.lockon.ru/showpost.php?p=273834&postcount=764 Cheers.
amalahama Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 AirTito, Are the Electrical system's breakers simulated?? Regards
RvETito Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 AirTito - This http://forum.lockon.ru/showpost.php?p=273834&postcount=764 Will do but not here, I'll post it in the Ka-50 Black Shark thread where it belongs. "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
RvETito Posted August 17, 2007 Posted August 17, 2007 It's already there ;) "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
ESA_MistrL Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 Iґm sure my question will "paint" a huge smile on someoneґs face but .... by chance is there any "aprox" Black Shark release date??? Since I saw first Black Shark video my life is harder to live. :joystick::joystick: I canґt wait until you ED guys release BS. Please, work hard (24 hours a day, 7 days a week) and let the BIRD fly free. Thx a lot for such an AMAZING sim. Cruz de San Andres First learn to fly. Then learn to fight. [sIGPIC]www.cruzdesanandres.com[/sIGPIC]
EvilBivol-1 Posted September 4, 2007 Posted September 4, 2007 ...and you shall smile in return: 2007 ;) - EB [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Nothing is easy. Everything takes much longer. The Parable of Jane's A-10 Forum Rules
enreisen Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 I think like Mistral. Must be an aprox release date !! I cant wait anymore :tomato::tomato: OT Will be a Mistral SAM defense system in BS ??? :book:
tucano Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 i need help is black shark addon fnished ? and if it >>from where can i get or download it i realy need this version
ED Team Groove Posted September 5, 2007 ED Team Posted September 5, 2007 is black shark addon fnished ? and if it >>from where can i get or download it i realy need this version im pretty much sure you arent the only one who need this version. its not released yet. Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
tucano Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 thanks thanks for answaring me and i hope it will be release quikly
NonoXyde Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Too lonnnnng... Im boring to wait... Gooooogle
Flyby Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Oh where is BS? The whole world wants to know. well, actually patience is a virtue. Just imagine the learing curve we'll bve exposed to. Tears of grief from waiting will turn to tears of frustration at trying to get proficient operating the BS in a combat situation. maybe not. might be a piece of cake! Flyby out The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
GGTharos Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 You'll find the learning curve isn't so steep - at least not when it comes to systems. Sure, there's a lot of switches to flip but it's just a procedure ... flying the thing is an entirely different deal though ... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Flyby Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Calling GGTHaros!!!! Are you saying the BS does not have any sort of digital flight compensation stuff to help the pilot? Am I to believe that a BS pilot will be busier than a one-armed paper hanger just to stay aloft? Hey just kidding. Some of us have flown other helo sims, and I assume you have too. So I ask you; is there (was there) ever a helo sim that you know of that had flight characteristics that rival (your impression of) the BS flight model for seeming accuracy? Of course I'm just hunting for any little tidbit of information. Hehe... you know me. :) Flyby out The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
GGTharos Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 I would say it have analogue compensation stuff, not digital (but it works well all the same) ... if you lose your stabilization system the heli becomes much more ah, adventurous to fly. And yes, you'll be busy enough trying to keep it flying in anything but a cruising profile. The workload for the pilot is pretty high. I haven't flown every heli sim out there, so I can't really compare well ... I'll tell you the FM, avionics and weapon modeling is excellent, and I compare to LBII here. I cannot comment on the accuracy of the BS FM since I've not flown a real heli, let alone a Ka-50, but from what I've /read/ of how a heli ought to behave, and a technical paper here and there explaining some single v twin rotor behavior, it behaves, in general, as I would expect it to. Climb rates, yaw tendency, rudder effectiveness at slow v high speed flight, rotor behavior in those regimes, etc, are likely to be a good match to any stories you might hear about the Ka-50. And yes, you can do stuff that'll get you killed, starting with not paying attention to the ground, for example. Now, purely my opinion: If we were to have an Apache in the sim, and stick the two side by side, with players flying them, the Ka-50 would climb, fly and maneuver faster. The Apache would completely own it in avionics capability on the other hand, as well as weapons employment capability in the anti-vehicle and heli v heli role assuming no prior SA or position advantage for either chopper. The Ka-50 would win when it comes to doing some niche things like building-busting, or laying mines etc (... and no, there's no flyable AH-64 in BS, and I don't know if we can lay mines in BS) I make this comparison to give you an idea of the fidelity that ED is striving in accomplishing in FM and avionics. I can't really go into more details, sadly. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
amalahama Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Hey GGTharos!! Do you think that we can taste a real Ah-64 in the next ED title after Black Shark?? ED is interested in or they haven't any wish about that?
GGTharos Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Well, all I can tell you is from what I have seen on these english forums, ED had been very interested in information about AH-64. But I don't know if they will make one. My guess is that since they were asking about it, they are or have been thinking about it. So I would imagine it is a possibility, but I would also think that because they did the A-10C for the ANG, we would probably see an A-10 after BS, because a lot of the work for it has already been done. But, again, I am only speculating, as I have no real information about the plan ahead. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
RvETito Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 I understand you guys are anxious to put your hands on the helicopter. All I can do for you is to assure you that it will be the one and only. I can't compare to other helo sims since I haven't tried any :) I can only judge from my personal experience working with civil Kamov helicopters and from that perspective I can tell you that testing the engines for example requires the same caution and interpetation as IRL. "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
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