Nozzles down

[uscstaylor]

good to know thanks

[CHRISXTR3M3]

Another hint.

 

Only in the Caucasus map. Normandy and Nevada are bug free.

 

 

 

You know....Caucasus map is all rendered over a layer of water texture. I don't think that Nevada and Normandy are the same. Caucasus being an old school type of map development where the water layer was the bottom most and first layer in the texture mapping.

 

 

So this might hint to part of the issue...not sure, I am not an expert, just throwing some thoughts out.

[Doum76]

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Edited March 23, 2018 by Doum76

[Doum76]

Honestly i just did another flight and watched it, first in cockpit i see nothing unless i start looking back, looking ahead i see nothing, second, i start looking at it on F2 view, from far and got to say the effect it does, really, really, reminds me the behavior of vapor vortex from Hornets but mostly SuperHornet you see on airshow videos or any videos when temperature is humid... i wounder if they are working on an effect for the hornet....

 

This is a vid a few seconds i've made, and whatch the second video of a vortex, might jsut be pure coincidence, but seem like a pre-achieved effect, tune it down a little and less intence and.... or i am just dreaming the Hornet will have some kick ass effect. :)

 

Second video it starts around 11 seconds.

 

DCS Bug:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQwT_KnFtfU&feature=youtu.be

 

 

SuperHornet Pass:

[RentedAndDented]

Not necessarily mod related, I am on a clean install with no mods and I'm getting it.

[tempusmurphy]

the only change to a stock game that I have is exporting MFD's to other monitors and I am getting this as well ... Will try the heat blur setting

 

EDIT just tried heat blur off .. and problem gone ...

Edited March 24, 2018 by tempusmurphy

[Boomer_QLD]

Yes, I,think it’s something ntroduced in the last update?

I have no mods, no exports.

I was was on Anztac “Through the Inferno” server yesterday. I had the exact same situation as the previous video post did, when on the Tarawa. At first I thought I had put down too hard, but soon realised the aircraft was completely fine.

I also witnessed this effect with helicopters landing at the next Airbase I was at.

They were totally obscured by this as they touched down.

Edited March 25, 2018 by Boomer_QLD
Can’t type worth a damn :-)

[uscstaylor]

Yup whatever that is they need to get rid of it asap it's a game killer for me

[phantomknight321]

I actually finally saw this happen; I was practicing carrier landings and at one point looked behind me and saw the huge cloud of dust. Very strange bug to be sure

 

 

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[uscstaylor]

hopefully ED can figure this out

[Doum76]

Well so far i'Ve found a way to reproduce it by mistake, has nothing to do with mods i think, what i found is, if, starting on the Tarawa with a parked Harrier and start as Parking HoT and already ready to rock n roll, it does it, if i start on the Tarawa as Cold Start, it's doing it as well. If i started hot from runway, landed on the Tarawa, no issues , same when i take off from Cold at an airfield. I presume this thread copied/link to DCS 2.5 bugs might be helpful. Maybe you guys try it out on your side and see if it does the same. Actualy found out, it happpend when hovering below 80 FT over the water, so on the carrier deck you are at 50 ft. Only thing i haven'T time to try is, if it does it with a Harrier starterd from cold on an airfield and hover the water to see if it does it. If thats the case, i'm just wondering if ED are working on a ground effect dust and it goes through the Tarawa as is, it wasn't take into consideration as and objet over the sea.

Edited March 28, 2018 by Doum76

[uscstaylor]

Good to know Ill try it and report back....Thanks alot

[Doum76]

I just did the test tonight and confirm on my side, on each of the 4 scenario when flying in an almost hover over the sea between 10-60 ft for the test: (as for those who says it's mods, all i am running as mods are liveries and AV-8B sound pack, liveries are loaded through OVGME loading them in the saved game directory while the sound mods are loading also with OVGME but inside DCS direct folder)

 

1- Cold Start from Ground : No issues

2- Hot Start from Ground : No issues

3- Cold Start from Tarawa deck: Issue occurs

4- Hot Start from Tarawa : Issue occurs

 

So until it's fixed if you wanna avoid the issue, don'T start from the Tarawa and you'll be able to do carrier ops without smoke/dust effect issues :)

Edited March 29, 2018 by Doum76

[uscstaylor]

Thanks Doum76

ED will hopefully fix this in the next update...

[uscstaylor]

I tried hot start from airfield and had issue. Ed will just have to remove whatever texture it is that's causing the issue

[uscstaylor]

Here's a thought why is the Tarawa in the core mods folder instead of the tech folder like every other thing all the other boats all the other mods are either in the aircraft folder or there in the tech folder in the Mods folder. just my two cents

[Doum76]

I tried hot start from airfield and had issue. Ed will just have to remove whatever texture it is that's causing the issue

 

Sorry to hear that :( Works for me and thought it might be working for everyone.

 

EDIT: well can<t even test anything tonight, for some reasons i ca<T even get the issue to occurs tonight, it doesn<t do it, even when starting on Tarawa... weird, no problem at all tonight

Edited March 30, 2018 by Doum76

[uscstaylor]

You are correct Sir I stand corrected

[dresoccer4]

it's doing it to me everywhere. on the boat, on the land, past 70 degrees. yikes

[Doum76]

Hey guys!

 

Well here i am agian with some tests for you who has the effect, i decided to treat myself yesterday with a small Easter present, decided to grab a new monitor to replace my 6 yrs old one and most, finaly replaced my old GTX760 for a GTX1070...

 

So no need to say yesterday and last night was an avalenche of tests going on to see what i liekd most as quality and performence. :) My main test were, hoping in the AV-8B while on the tarawa as it was my main references as FPS wise cuz that's where i flew most of the tie lately, lvoe the Carrier :) But most test were, hope in game, see FPS and Graphics effect, quit to desktop, adjust etc.. i didn't always started the bird or move the nozzle, so all was looking fine, most of the time i was taking off from ground to see landscape settings... all that said, hope in this morning for a flight taking of from the carrier, and bam, effect is back this morning which haven'T seen yesterday cuz it was off until i changed my graphic card...

 

So decided to ran a few test, not in depth but stil.. who ever has some issue, might try this out.. so far what i found is:

 

In game settings:

MSAA and Anistropic seted to maxed for each, so 8x and 16x

 

then what i realised is, tried a few times. in Nvidia, when AA setped to Ovveride application and seted to 2x and MFAA on, the effect is there, if i turn MFAA off, no effect, i then turned MFAA back on, effect was there, returned it off, effect still but way way way dimed.

 

Then i kept MFAA off, turned of AA in Nvidia so application treat it's own from it'S settings, effect is there... went back in Nvidia, put back AA application ovveride, with 2x, and again effect gone... so as a recap on my side.

 

Nvidia AA: Ovveride Application

Nvidia MFAA: On

Issues on

 

Nvidia AA: Ovveride Application

Nvidia MFAA: Off

Issues off

 

Nvidia AA: Off and let DCS deal with it

Nvidia MFAA: Off

Issues on

 

I didn'T as i said, went in depth, could have tried to see if enhance does it or set in nVidia same as in game same AA, but for now i'll stay as is, enough tests in 2 days, just try to see does few settings. BTA i have AA Transperency 2x (supersample) on

 

EDITED : :)

 

Nvidia AA: Enhance Application

Nvidia MFAA: Off

Issues on

 

EDITED-EDITED:

Forget my post, seems after trying last Enchanced settings, issue gets back even with ovveride which was fine the test before... weird bug whiich reproduces and not after trying out same settings ot tests... seems like a morphing bug and evolves like a cough or cold and adjusts itself :PPP Just turned FXAA of in Nvidia and effect is gone once more.

 

 

EDIT-EDIT-EDIT :)

Final setting which is fine and i don'T touch it anymore.

 

 

Nvidia AA: Overide Application

Nvidia AA Set: 8x (was fine with 2x as well)

Nvidia MFAA: Off

Nvidia FXAA: Off

Issues off

 

Seems when ever FXAA and MFAA are on and we let DCS deals with AA, problems occurs, just that the tons of combinaiton possible between nvdia and DCS makes test hard, but so far, i leave FXAA and MFAA off and let nvidia control the AA.

Edited March 31, 2018 by Doum76

[Esac_mirmidon]

Im sorry to say that Nvidia AA is doing NOTHING on DCS.

 

Only AA managed inside DCS options is making AA working.

[Doum76]

Im sorry to say that Nvidia AA is doing NOTHING on DCS.

 

Only AA managed inside DCS options is making AA working.

 

 

As i read and seen, but the main thing is, working or not, playing around with those options, does affect that bug, and for now i wanna point that bug out to avoid it then after that i'll thing about the AA to be honest. I love flying in and out of the carrier and bugs :) I'm not a computer tech so, trouble shooting something kinda requires me ltos of changes :) But you made me realise that maybe having some AA set in nVidia might be causing conflict....

 

 

EDIT: You made me wanna test leaving Nvidia AA at OFF, went in DCS, MSAA and Anist. in DCS on, had the bugg, turned them both off than no more issues, left game and back in, and the bug was back, unable to reproduce it alaways at 100%... will be a hard damn bug tough to fix for them, but i guess i give up :)

Edited March 31, 2018 by Doum76