JF-17 Thunder Discussions

[FlankerFan35]

On 10/7/2022 at 6:37 PM, Breakaway said:

I'm really happy with this bird and cant really complain about much accept the lack of liveries, will there be any official liveries released soon?

There are plenty liveries in the user files section of forums

[Breakaway]

37 minutes ago, FlankerFan35 said:

There are plenty liveries in the user files section of forums

Not helpful if you play online though

[FlankerFan35]

22 hours ago, Breakaway said:

Not helpful if you play online though

I only play online so I feel that, however if you're doing PvP online nobody has time to see skins.

For online vs ai with friends ig it would be nice. Only three real life operators though.

[MK84]

I believe this is the first clear look we get at the chin mount on the Block III.
Source: https://twitter.com/Defence__Pak/status/1592574601447739393?s=20&t=HUk5ydCNWww0hA1Y3dlAUQ
 

Edited November 16, 2022 by MK84

[killkenny1]

That chin mount is so hot!

Really about the only thing I wish our Jeff had...

[FlankerFan35]

17 hours ago, MK84 said:

I believe this is the first clear look we get at the chin mount on the Block III.
Source: https://twitter.com/Defence__Pak/status/1592574601447739393?s=20&t=HUk5ydCNWww0hA1Y3dlAUQ
 

 

Looks great!

We can see new and relocated MAWS sensors, new helmet and cockpit layout to match the J-10CE the PAF already has.

[unnox]

Please, give us the HMD. The JF-17 is my favorite jet, it just needs the HMD. 

Edited January 21, 2023 by unnox

[AeriaGloria]

2 hours ago, unnox said:

Please, give us the HMD. The JF-17 is my favorite jet, it just needs the HMD. 

 

Get Pakistan to buy it, I’m sure they have the spare change from the floods and J-10C purchase

[unnox]

vor 4 Stunden schrieb AeriaGloria:

Get Pakistan to buy it, I’m sure they have the spare change from the floods and J-10C purchase

The JF-17C has the upgrade. According to The EurAsian Time‘s article from 18th November 2022.

Edited January 22, 2023 by unnox

[AeriaGloria]

21 minutes ago, unnox said:

The JF-17C has the upgrade. According to The EurAsian Time‘s article from 18th November 2022.

 

Yes, but that’s not the block 1/2 that would allow Deka to bring it in 

[Cdodders]

Trying to place RP waypoints for the JF-17 Cruise Missile for a MP session, however the square box that I usually use (mainly for SP) isn't there for a Client jet, will the Nav Target Points still work for the purposes of targeting the cruise missile?
 

Edited January 22, 2023 by Cdodders

[unnox]

Am 22.1.2023 um 02:29 schrieb AeriaGloria:

Yes, but that’s not the block 1/2 that would allow Deka to bring it in 

So what now? It is not open for public because the PAF didn‘t buy it or because Deka isn‘t „allowed“ to publish it?
And when the PAF retro-fit the Block 2 with the HMD?

There are some rumors around that the code is there but not available for public?

Maybe @uboats can finally make an end to this speculation.

[AeriaGloria]

1 hour ago, unnox said:

So what now? It is not open for public because the PAF didn‘t buy it or because Deka isn‘t „allowed“ to publish it?
And when the PAF retro-fit the Block 2 with the HMD?

There are some rumors around that the code is there but not available for public?

Maybe @uboats can finally make an end to this speculation.

The speculation has ended for long time now. PAF has never said they will add HMD to block 1/2. And is it even the same HMD as the one tested in Chengdu that Deka coded and had access to? 
 

Uboats has said they haven’t added it becuase it’s not realistic until PAF does retrofit, which has never been confirmed to be planned by PAF 

[Napillo]

and I wish we had more ammo, or the Gsh-30-2K. And GB1 500 (which I've seen recently some Block 1 aircraft mounted them).

[Mike_Romeo]

9 hours ago, Napillo said:

(which I've seen recently some Block 1 aircraft mounted them).

please show

[Napillo]

1 hour ago, Mike_Romeo said:

please show

here's what it looks like:

https://www.airliners.net/photo/Pakistan-Air-Force/JF-17-Thunder/1836751/L?qsp=eJwtjLEKwkAQRH9FttZCBCPptLCwMUV%2BYLkbTDDmjt0Vc4T8u3fRbmbe8GZyYTRM1qYIqknB4jraUmThl1I90xPpE8TnTLfrbl9t2u49ekg%2BaRC7pAw8G87OIRr8f79L%2BWQEdavvUfynEiHNrx2Oufpe48CrBcb9QMvyBdAnMQU%3D

That's the bomb near the block 1, so you know what it looks like, and can get relative size.

Here it is on an airplane, 11-130 (block 1 made in 2011) - this is just a model it seems, and a rendering, but I have seen this grey looking thing on the JF before, and this shows it more clearly. I was looking through about 1000 photos yesterday, I can't seem to locate the original photos that led me down this path. Basically, you look for the grey tail fins, or the strange looking tip of this. It's just a 500lb laser guided bomb, which we already have, but maybe it flies different, I don't know, and it has a couple tiny wind vanes on it, no idea what those are for, but seems neat. But, doesn't really provide more explosive damage, as far as I know. I do know the GB1 500 can have quite a few different fusing options, cool thing to have the options for. It's similar design to a KAB-500L.

 

Edited January 25, 2023 by Napillo
clarified "photo"

[Napillo]

Just now, Lima29 said:

this does not look like a photo to me

it's not, it is a render, it's the quickest one I could find, I did find some other photos yesterday, as I was looking through a lot, and that led me to do some research to find out what the bomb was called, there are photos that show it is on the airplane, mounted, though not in the air. It can be used as a reference to find those photos, but it is not evidence in itself. that said, they did show it at several air shows as supporting the GB-1 500, and the Block I model was displayed.

[Lima29]

1 hour ago, Napillo said:

 

 

But …… this does not look like a photo, when you zoom in this looks exactly like airbrushed artwork

[Napillo]

2 minutes ago, Lima29 said:

this does not look like a photo

I don't get your point, it is as a reference example that you can see how it looks mounted. It's not a photo.

[Niccii]

Hey guys, does someone know if pilons with 2 x C701 are possible ? Or it don't exist ?  

About the pylons with GB6/C802 is it possible to put AA missiles or C701 ? 

Thanks !

[Dr_Pavelheer]

@Niccii

1) I don't know

2) Likely not possible due to missile/rocket engine smoke ingestion by the engine. Notice that C802's drop off the rail with engine off

[Low_Quality]

May I ask what is with the development of HMD, and what is the chance of obtaining PL-7 missiles?
Moreover, they are already in the game, though only for AI.

Edited March 11, 2023 by Low_Quality

[Mike_Romeo]

15 hours ago, Low_Quality said:

Moreover, they are already in the game, though only for AI.

The PL-7 is not in DCS.

15 hours ago, Low_Quality said:

May I ask what is with the development of HMD

[Low_Quality]

В 12.03.2023 в 16:10, Mike_Romeo сказал:

The PL-7 is not in DCS.

Oh, I confused Pl-7 and Pl-8. I hope HMD will be provided before the end of this year

[Dr_Pavelheer]

There is no HMD because PAF didn't buy them for Mk1 JF-17.

If they do and there is enough data it will likely be implemented