Cold War 1947 - 1991

[Alpenwolf]

Server News:

 

* R-60M's were added to all missions where Su-25's and MiG-29A's didn't have them, because MiG-21's would have access to them as well.

* The new option in the Mission Editor enables that while thankfully disabling R-60M's for MiG-21's.

 

Operation Fight Island:

- Removed all 12 x Su-25T's.

- Instead, 12 x Su-25's were added -> 2 x slots.

 

Operation Open Range:

- Reduced the amount of structures at both the Red Factory and the Red Water Station by ca. 50%.

- This should help Blue get the job done.

[Alpenwolf]

Server News:

 

Operation Close Air Support:

- Mi-24P's are restricted to 4 x ATGM's. Outer pylons (wing tips) only.

- Added 10 more SA342L's (used to be 6 only, so now it's 16).

- Added 8 x Shilkas and 12 x Vulcans at the frontlines.

- The amount of deployed assault troops is increased by 33%. That means more assault troops (or squads) and not troops within a deployed squad.

- Yak-52's don't spawn - Fixed.

- Briefing adjusted.

 

Dust:

If I'm to add dust to the mission, would that limit Hinds' and Gazelles' TV cameras in DCS? Petrovich might not have an issue, but players maybe?

Can someone test that in the Gazelle, please?

 

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Operation Search & Destroy goes online tonight. Note that MiG-29A's and Su-25's have access to R-60M's. MiG-21's don't.

Operation Battle Over Sukhumi Unleashed goes online tomorrow night. Note that MiG-29A's and Su-25's have access to R-60M's. MiG-21's don't.

One of the Limited Editions will go online next weekend. Will be announced soon.

[=475FG= Dawger]

2 hours ago, Alpenwolf said:

Server News:

 

Operation Close Air Support:

- Mi-24P's are restricted to 4 x ATGM's. Outer pylons (wing tips) only.

- Added 10 more SA342L's (used to be 6 only, so now it's 16).

- Added 8 x Shilkas and 12 x Vulcans at the frontlines.

- The amount of deployed assault troops is increased by 33%. That means more assault troops (or squads) and not troops within a deployed squad.

- Yak-52's don't spawn - Fixed.

- Briefing adjusted.

 

Dust:

If I'm to add dust to the mission, would that limit Hinds' and Gazelles' TV cameras in DCS? Petrovich might not have an issue, but players maybe?

Can someone test that in the Gazelle, please?

 

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Operation Search & Destroy goes online tonight. Note that MiG-29A's and Su-25's have access to R-60M's. MiG-21's don't.

Operation Battle Over Sukhumi Unleashed goes online tomorrow night. Note that MiG-29A's and Su-25's have access to R-60M's. MiG-21's don't.

One of the Limited Editions will go online next weekend. Will be announced soon.

Dust in any desert map is a horrible orange mess is VR. Actually, dust or fog are pretty poorly done in VR in any map.

[Alpenwolf]

3 minutes ago, =475FG= Dawger said:

Dust in any desert map is a horrible orange mess is VR. Actually, dust or fog are pretty poorly done in VR in any map.

 

I knew you were going to say that. Bloody VR players

 

Joke aside, I was mainly talking about the TV cameras. Not saying your VR thing is neglected.

[sLYFa]

IMHO the dust isnt too bad in VR its just that the effect is strange in general. From high up it seems there is no dust at all while below a certain altitude you suddenly become surrounded by yellow fog. It does get the job of reducing visibility down low done though (at least for mkI eyeballs). So if this is a tactical constraint you want I would enable dust. 

Edited October 1, 2021 by sLYFa

[=475FG= Dawger]

44 minutes ago, Alpenwolf said:

 

I knew you were going to say that. Bloody VR players

 

Joke aside, I was mainly talking about the TV cameras. Not saying your VR thing is neglected.

Not only does it look awful, it is unrealistic. I have never seen dust like that flying over the desert and my buddies who have flown tactical aircraft in the regions represented also agree that they have never seen dust anything like it looks in VR, either color or density. And before anyone pipes in about desert sandstorms, you don’t operate jet engines in a sandstorm. Very, very bad things happen very quickly. My vote would be to nix the dust, because flight ops would be suspended or limited to departures outside the affected area and altitudes well above the dust. 

Of course, CAS is a helo event and they might put a dust filter on and fly but I don’t think dust is appropriate for a fixed wing scenario. 

[Alpenwolf]

43 minutes ago, =475FG= Dawger said:

Not only does it look awful, it is unrealistic. I have never seen dust like that flying over the desert and my buddies who have flown tactical aircraft in the regions represented also agree that they have never seen dust anything like it looks in VR, either color or density. And before anyone pipes in about desert sandstorms, you don’t operate jet engines in a sandstorm. Very, very bad things happen very quickly. My vote would be to nix the dust, because flight ops would be suspended or limited to departures outside the affected area and altitudes well above the dust. 

Of course, CAS is a helo event and they might put a dust filter on and fly but I don’t think dust is appropriate for a fixed wing scenario. 

 

You got a point. No dust then.

[Miccara]

1 hour ago, Alpenwolf said:

 

You got a point. No dust then.

I'd like to see a "Bad Weather" mission. Might be an interesting twist.

[=475FG= Dawger]

5 minutes ago, Miccara said:

I'd like to see a "Bad Weather" mission. Might be an interesting twist.

Helicopter bad weather ( Overcast clouds below 250 feet and visibility less than mile) would put the fast movers above the cloud deck or out of the fight completely due to lack of navaids. Low VFR (1000 foot overcast, 3 miles visibility will make low level jets challenging but should be no hindrance to helo ops. The jets would still have navigation issues with no navaids for recovery. It might be interesting to try. 

[unhappytroll]

Search&Destroy - is the FARP ARC even working? because it does not works for me, and without GCI hell if I know where it even is.

[Tavo89]

12 hours ago, Alpenwolf said:

 

 

Operation Search & Destroy goes online tonight. Note that MiG-29A's and Su-25's have access to R-60M's. MiG-21's don't.

Operation Battle Over Sukhumi Unleashed goes online tomorrow night. Note that MiG-29A's and Su-25's have access to R-60M's. MiG-21's don't.

One of the Limited Editions will go online next weekend. Will be announced soon.

 

Hi Alpen, what missiles does the F-5 and F-14 carry on this mission. From a logistical point of view, it makes no sense that the Su-25 and Mig-29 can carry the R-60M, but not the Mig-21 Bis.

 

It's very simple, if there are Mig-29 and Su-25 with R-60m at your base, obviously you are going to have R-60M for your Mig-21Bis.

hahahah the Mig-21Bis pilot on this mission, no thanks I prefer the R-60s, please store the R-60m missiles. (joke)

 

The Mig-21 Bis entered service in 1972, the R-60m in 1982 and the Mig-29A in 1983, this missile was available for the Mig-21Bis for one year, before the Mig-29A entered service, in addition to this, there will be fights with the Tomcats.

Edited October 1, 2021 by Tavo89

[Conker4]

3 hours ago, Tavo89 said:

 

Hi Alpen, what missiles does the F-5 and F-14 carry on this mission. From a logistical point of view, it makes no sense that the Su-25 and Mig-29 can carry the R-60M, but not the Mig-21 Bis.

 

It's very simple, if there are Mig-29 and Su-25 with R-60m at your base, obviously you are going to have R-60M for your Mig-21Bis.

hahahah the Mig-21Bis pilot on this mission, no thanks I prefer the R-60s, please store the R-60m missiles. (joke)

 

The Mig-21 Bis entered service in 1972, the R-60m in 1982 and the Mig-29A in 1983, this missile was available for the Mig-21Bis for one year, before the Mig-29A entered service, in addition to this, there will be fights with the Tomcats.

 

I'm sure its because he wants the main aircraft on the server to be rear aspect and for the special aircraft to have special capabilities. If its the case the 21 gets the 60m then all the blue planes would need all aspect missiles and im sure red dont want the Viggens to come and dunk on them all again with all aspect missiles. 

[Alpenwolf]

12 hours ago, unhappytroll said:

Search&Destroy - is the FARP ARC even working? because it does not works for me, and without GCI hell if I know where it even is.

 

It's a known bug and I've reported it long time ago and still nothing. Very frustrating. See here.

 

11 hours ago, Tavo89 said:

 

Hi Alpen, what missiles does the F-5 and F-14 carry on this mission. From a logistical point of view, it makes no sense that the Su-25 and Mig-29 can carry the R-60M, but not the Mig-21 Bis.

 

It's very simple, if there are Mig-29 and Su-25 with R-60m at your base, obviously you are going to have R-60M for your Mig-21Bis.

hahahah the Mig-21Bis pilot on this mission, no thanks I prefer the R-60s, please store the R-60m missiles. (joke)

 

The Mig-21 Bis entered service in 1972, the R-60m in 1982 and the Mig-29A in 1983, this missile was available for the Mig-21Bis for one year, before the Mig-29A entered service, in addition to this, there will be fights with the Tomcats.

 

 

The idea is to have rear aspect missiles only. There used to be all aspect missiles for years on the server. Dogfights didn't really last that long. Head on kills were a normality. With rear aspect missiles only, the challenge is way more demanding and pilots have to show some skill. Unfortunately, not all aircraft have access to rear aspect missiles in DCS. And it's only the Su-25 and the MiG-29A. For a long time the Su-25 would fly without having any air-to-air missiles hoping for MiG's to provide cover, while A-10A's always had access to rear aspect missiles -> AIM-9P. I don't want to go back to all aspect missiles for all, on the other hand I can't keep Su-25's so defenceless any longer. Keep in mind that F-14A's also have an all aspect IR missile -> AIM-9L. With that, the R-60M is only for MiG-29A's and now for Su-25's too.

[unhappytroll]

2 hours ago, Alpenwolf said:

It's a known bug and I've reported it long time ago and still nothing. Very frustrating.

oh. well, everyone is busy with Apache, spice must flow etc.

[=475FG= Dawger]

2 hours ago, Alpenwolf said:

 

It's a known bug and I've reported it long time ago and still nothing. Very frustrating. See here.

 

 

The idea is to have rear aspect missiles only. There used to be all aspect missiles for years on the server. Dogfights didn't really last that long. Head on kills were a normality. With rear aspect missiles only, the challenge is way more demanding and pilots have to show some skill. Unfortunately, not all aircraft have access to rear aspect missiles in DCS. And it's only the Su-25 and the MiG-29A. For a long time the Su-25 would fly without having any air-to-air missiles hoping for MiG's to provide cover, while A-10A's always had access to rear aspect missiles -> AIM-9P. I don't want to go back to all aspect missiles for all, on the other hand I can't keep Su-25's so defenceless any longer. Keep in mind that F-14A's also have an all aspect IR missile -> AIM-9L. With that, the R-60M is only for MiG-29A's and now for Su-25's too.

Please limit the radar/all aspect missions to the greatest extent possible.

 

We can get that stuff on a thousand other servers.

 

What makes Cold War different is limiting the equipment so that humans working together is important to success. 

[Alpenwolf]

11 minutes ago, =475FG= Dawger said:

Please limit the radar/all aspect missions to the greatest extent possible.

 

We can get that stuff on a thousand other servers.

 

What makes Cold War different is limiting the equipment so that humans working together is important to success. 

 

It's only a few missions with MiG-29A's and F-14A's included. And it's always 2 slots for each type with very limited numbers. MiG-21's and F-5's are often enough successful against the big birds. It'll be more interesting to see what happens when the MiG-23 is added to Red and the F-1 to Blue. Both have "decent" radar missiles, you know. Oh, and the F-4 one day maybe.

 

The rear aspect scenario will remain, no worries. It's just that the modules on the way are certainly going to alter that a bit. Just a bit.

[Tavo89]

8 hours ago, Alpenwolf said:

The idea is to have rear aspect missiles only. There used to be all aspect missiles for years on the server. Dogfights didn't really last that long. Head on kills were a normality. With rear aspect missiles only, the challenge is way more demanding and pilots have to show some skill. Unfortunately, not all aircraft have access to rear aspect missiles in DCS. And it's only the Su-25 and the MiG-29A. For a long time the Su-25 would fly without having any air-to-air missiles hoping for MiG's to provide cover, while A-10A's always had access to rear aspect missiles -> AIM-9P. I don't want to go back to all aspect missiles for all, on the other hand I can't keep Su-25's so defenceless any longer. Keep in mind that F-14A's also have an all aspect IR missile -> AIM-9L. With that, the R-60M is only for MiG-29A's and now for Su-25's too.

 

Ok Alpen, I understand the reason for these changes, cheers.

[Alpenwolf]

Just now, LoneS said:

I agree with fog and dust being an issue for VR. Please don't Alpy.

 

Just watched an interesting video totally not related to any topic here. We need the Blackhawk in DCS and Cold War server

 

 

 

Damn, that's sick! Probably drug dealers fighting back or something.

 

And yes! A Blue transport helicopter faster than the UH-1 is more than welcome. Wouldn't mind the Ch-47 either.

[Tavo89]

It happened in my country Colombia, FARC guerrillas attacked this Uh-60 of the National Army, nobody was injured and the helicopter was repaired.

 

They were disembarking troops in the theater of operations.

[rossmum]

On 10/2/2021 at 2:30 AM, Miccara said:

I'd like to see a "Bad Weather" mission. Might be an interesting twist.

 

We need a better weather system first IMO. DCS' new clouds look nice, but we still only have like 3 layers of them and negligble wind or localised turbulence, and various radars that should struggle with cloud currently don't, IR seekers/IRST sees through them, etc. Also, there's a distinct advantage to anyone who turns shadows off unfortunately - spotting under cloud shadows is pretty difficult, but turning shadows off means you can see like it's broad daylight. Hopefully ED will hardcode cloud shadows at some point so that isn't an issue anymore.

 

I'd absolutely love some more missions with weather when that day finally comes, though, and a bit of overall turbulence can be interesting even now.

 

e/ On the other hand, Dawger's suggestion is solid. I used to like Supervision but the cloud base was high enough that people would just stay under it anyway (kinda like Open Range currently). Having it really low so really only helicopters can operate at ground level would be interesting for sure.

Edited October 2, 2021 by rossmum

[Alpenwolf]

9 hours ago, rossmum said:

 

We need a better weather system first IMO. DCS' new clouds look nice, but we still only have like 3 layers of them and negligble wind or localised turbulence, and various radars that should struggle with cloud currently don't, IR seekers/IRST sees through them, etc. Also, there's a distinct advantage to anyone who turns shadows off unfortunately - spotting under cloud shadows is pretty difficult, but turning shadows off means you can see like it's broad daylight. Hopefully ED will hardcode cloud shadows at some point so that isn't an issue anymore.

 

I'd absolutely love some more missions with weather when that day finally comes, though, and a bit of overall turbulence can be interesting even now.

 

e/ On the other hand, Dawger's suggestion is solid. I used to like Supervision but the cloud base was high enough that people would just stay under it anyway (kinda like Open Range currently). Having it really low so really only helicopters can operate at ground level would be interesting for sure.

 

 

How low? And what about the thickness of the clouds' layer? If the clouds are that low then helicopters might also end up flying into hills and mountain sides. Unless of course it's mostly flat terrains. On the other hand, Su-25's, A-10's and AJS37's might have a hard time finding anything to strike. Despite all the obstacles though, I'm not saying it's not an interesting idea. It's just that things must be taken into consideration first and properly tested.

[Alpenwolf]

2 Upcoming Server Events for Next Weekend:

 

1) Operation Close Air Support:

 

    Kicks off next Friday, 08.10.2021, around 1800 zulu (mission runs for 6 hours max)

 

    Here's the latest change log:

   - Mi-24P's are restricted to 4 x ATGM's. Outer pylons (wing tips) only.

   - Added 10 more SA342L's (used to be 6 only, so now it's 16).

   - Added 8 x Shilkas and 12 x Vulcans at the frontlines.

   - The amount of deployed assault troops is increased by 33%. That means more assault troops (or squads) and not troops within a deployed squad.

   - Yak-52's don't spawn - Fixed.

   - Briefing adjusted.

 

2) Operation Tiberias:

 

     Kicks off next Saturday, 09.10.2021, around 1800 zulu (mission runs for 4 hours max)

 

     Here's the latest change log:

     - Added 12 x AV-8B's (2 x slots) operating from the aircraft carrier, Theodore Roosevelt.

     - Blue ships are now mobile and not stationary any more.

     - Aircraft numbers and their slots adjusted (reduced some and increased some).

     - Added reserve slots for Falcons, Hornets and Harriers at Ramat David Airbase.

     - That means if players land and leave their Falcons/Hornets/Harriers at Ramat David Airbase, the reserve slot becomes alive for that particular type of aircraft.

     - Removed SA-15's escorting Red tanks on their way to the objective.

     - Removed SA-13's escorting Red tanks on their way to the objective.

     - Briefing and briefing images adjusted.

     - Ground units' advanced options optimised.

     - Updated the second post of the mission's thread for a better aircraft overview and available weapons.

 

 

Important Note:

 

The server will be locked up with a password for the two events. Get on TeamSpeak 10-15 minutes prior to the event for a quick briefing and to get the password.

 

Note that I use the TeamSpeak 3 channel of the 104th Phoenix server.

When tuned in, scroll all the way down to see it.

 

TeamSpeak 3 IP: ts50.gameservers.com:9132

TeamSpeak 3 password: phoenix

Edited October 3, 2021 by Alpenwolf

[=475FG= Dawger]

1 hour ago, Alpenwolf said:

 

How low? And what about the thickness of the clouds' layer? If the clouds are that low then helicopters might also end up flying into hills and mountain sides. Unless of course it's mostly flat terrains. On the other hand, Su-25's, A-10's and AJS37's might have a hard time finding anything to strike. Despite all the obstacles though, I'm not saying it's not an interesting idea. It's just that things must be taken into consideration first and properly tested.

The way weather works in DCS, you won’t have the same cloud ceiling everywhere. This is sort of realistic. Clouds in DCS to do not react to light properly in DCS. They are far too dark and absorb instead of reflect light. I think a mission with really bad weather in the helo AO but better weather elsewhere might be interesting. The weather would keep the fixed wing off the helos but they would need to really navigate and concentrate on terrain avoidance.

 

PS Any chance of LGB’s for the Homs mission? 

[Alpenwolf]

3 hours ago, =475FG= Dawger said:

The way weather works in DCS, you won’t have the same cloud ceiling everywhere. This is sort of realistic. Clouds in DCS to do not react to light properly in DCS. They are far too dark and absorb instead of reflect light. I think a mission with really bad weather in the helo AO but better weather elsewhere might be interesting. The weather would keep the fixed wing off the helos but they would need to really navigate and concentrate on terrain avoidance.

 

PS Any chance of LGB’s for the Homs mission? 

 

I'll have to run some tests with different weather settings. You and others can do and if you figure out a proper weather setting, let me know.

 

I'll add some LGB's to Homs.

[=475FG= Dawger]

4 hours ago, Alpenwolf said:

 

I'll have to run some tests with different weather settings. You and others can do and if you figure out a proper weather setting, let me know.

 

I'll add some LGB's to Homs.

I will play with it a bit.

 

 

Edited October 3, 2021 by =475FG= Dawger