G3 Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 No TrackIRs?? :) hahahahha, true. my thoughts exactly, whats up with that :D come on guys. it would take only one dude to get a TIR, at first they would all laugh and poke fun at his funny hat.
Aeroscout Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 I cant really tell what that is. He just got shot down and just pushed escape. you can see the recover, quit and cancle options are avalible. And, not only is lockon not the greatest thing in the world to do prefessional training on, but they dont even have TIRs. like gg87 said, what's up with that. DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
GGTharos Posted April 15, 2007 Posted April 15, 2007 Because a TIR would get you used to looking around 'the wrong way' compared to a real aircraft. Just a guess. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
G3 Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 it also looks like they are sitting back to back, i am sure that would cause issues with the trackir's. agreed it is learning to look "the wrong way", but it's gotta be better than looking with the number pad :megalol:
dodger42 Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 Yup...another bunch of guys defending their country. I'd hang with 'em for a Qingtao or 2, but they'd probably laugh at me for drinking a crap, export beer. :D Do you mean TsingTao? Or is it spelt with a Q in your home town? In China the locals also drink TsingTao. Of course its surprising to see Lockon in there, but perhaps moreso, that they use little 15" CRTs. /D . . . Lockon Advanced Realism with Touch-Buddy
7rooper Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 I dont think those chinesse pilots are taking a full training with so many limitations.. No track IR dvices -even if they were using it they'd be compelled to look around the wrong way-, there's no AFM either and besides they're not even using a joystick system with separated modules for throttle and pedals. c'mon they cannot be training seriously with it. What I think they're doing it's rather practice flying formations and maybe having their first contact with the avionics and pit. My rig specs: Intel Core i7 4770 @3.4Ghz // Corsair 16GB DDR3 // MoBo Asus Z87K // HDD 1TB 7200RPM // eVGA Nvidia GTX 760GT 2GB DDR5 // LG 3D 47" 1920x1080 // Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS // Saitek Combat Pro Pedals // Thrustmaster MFD Cougar pack // PS3 Eye + FTNOIR
hitman Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 Because a TIR would get you used to looking around 'the wrong way' compared to a real aircraft. Just a guess. As opposed to, say, moving your head around with your thumb? Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
Kuky Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 There was a bus load of chinese chaps (I wonder if it was the same guys :D) who joined the virtually empty 504 server t'other day naturally I welcomed them all with a good selection of missiles all round :D You made me laugh with this and I have a pretty shitty day today so I'm gonna give you a REP for it :D PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
Kuky Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 Im going to laugh when you start an international incident on-line. now that would be something :megalol: PC specs: Windows 11 Home | Asus TUF Gaming B850-Plus WiFi | AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D + LC 360 AIO | MSI RTX 5090 LC 360 AIO | 55" Samsung Odyssey Gen 2 | 64GB PC5-48000 DDR5 | 1TB M2 SSD for OS | 2TB M2 SSD for DCS | NZXT C1000 Gold ATX 3.1 1000W | TM Cougar Throttle, Floor Mounted MongoosT-50 Grip on TM Cougar board, MFG Crosswind, Track IR
SuperKungFu Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 does anyone know where we can find this actual video. I want to see it for laughs. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
7rooper Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 what he means is that when u use a TIR device you dont have to -and musnt- move your head more than two inches because the device magnifies your head movement as if you were turning your head completely. So that's why hes says you'd be looking the wrong way. ...oh I see you own one of those TIR. so why is it that you dont understand? My rig specs: Intel Core i7 4770 @3.4Ghz // Corsair 16GB DDR3 // MoBo Asus Z87K // HDD 1TB 7200RPM // eVGA Nvidia GTX 760GT 2GB DDR5 // LG 3D 47" 1920x1080 // Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS // Saitek Combat Pro Pedals // Thrustmaster MFD Cougar pack // PS3 Eye + FTNOIR
TucksonSonny Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 Of course its surprising to see Lockon in there, but perhaps moreso, that they use little 15" CRTs. /D That is a negative! Check the width of that keyboard! That is a 19” CRT 1600x1200 together with superior contrast and color depth. (Not many lcd users inhere can remember the sensation of this resolution) Anyway cool pilot jackets! :D DELL Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 940 2,93 GHz @3 GHz, 8 MB cache | 8.192 MB 1.067 MHz Tri Channel DDR3 | 512 MB ATI® Radeon™ 4850 | 500 GB 7200 rpm Serial ATA | Samsung SM 2693 HM 25.5 " | HOTAS Cougar Thrustmaster |
hitman Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 what he means is that when u use a TIR device you dont have to -and musnt- move your head more than two inches because the device magnifies your head movement as if you were turning your head completely. So that's why hes says you'd be looking the wrong way. ...oh I see you own one of those TIR. so why is it that you dont understand? And Ill reiterate this...how is this less realistic than moving your head with your thumb? Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
Aeroscout Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 For a computer, TIR is the most realistic option... so why dont they use it? DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
GGTharos Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 It's more realistic because you're not unlearning head movement - but that's just a guess on my part. It doesn't look like they're doing anything but staring at the HUD anyway. And do keep in mind, I doubt they really practice formation flying or even dogfighting - they're more likely to be practicing procedures or something of the sort. Again, just a stab in the dark. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Aeroscout Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 It's more realistic because you're not unlearning head movement - but that's just a guess on my part. It doesn't look like they're doing anything but staring at the HUD anyway. And do keep in mind, I doubt they really practice formation flying or even dogfighting - they're more likely to be practicing procedures or something of the sort. Again, just a stab in the dark. Ya, i think your right. Lockon wouldn't be a great replacement for the real thing, even though it is a great simulator. DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
Aeroscout Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 True, but it is kinda cool to think that an AF is using our favorite sim... DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
hitman Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 It doesn't look like they're doing anything but staring at the HUD anyway. And do keep in mind, I doubt they really practice formation flying or even dogfighting - they're more likely to be practicing procedures or something of the sort. Again, just a stab in the dark. Ok. Press G for gear down or up. F for flaps. Press the + and - keys for throttle detents if your x45 isnt working. Pressing E here activates your sorbstyia pods...just like in the real jets. Id be more inclined to guess that they are actually flying formation, considering in the original posted pic...which shows us that they ARE flying formation. Intel 13900k @ 5.8ghz | 64gb GSkill Trident Z | MSI z790 Meg ACE | Zotac RTX4090 | Asus 1000w psu | Slaw RX Viper 2 pedals | VPForce Rhino/VKB MCE Ultimate + STECS Mk2 MAX / Virpil MongoosT50+ MongoosT50CM | Virpil TCS+/ AH64D grip/custom AH64D TEDAC | Samsung Odyssey G9 + Odyssey Ark | Next Level Racing Flight Seat Pro | WinWing F-18 MIPS | No more VR for this pilot.
S77th-konkussion Posted April 16, 2007 Posted April 16, 2007 I can't imagine the use of a track IR having any adverse effect when sitting in a real cockpit.. Anyway- This could be R&R for these guys.. How could.. nevermind.. I'm not going to say it... [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC]
monotwix Posted April 17, 2007 Posted April 17, 2007 I think that the TrackIR was taken away from them to simulate a neck cramps, after all a neck cant move with the G-cramps,some times only to one side it moves and stays there for a moment, so to be alert during the blackout ha. In addition to the theory any junior pilot would be better of starting to fly a real jet after flying in lockon if no other proper military-simulator is available. I know the human being and fish can coexist peacefully.
flugzug Posted April 20, 2007 Posted April 20, 2007 don't forget that this can be a nice example of disinformation as well for potential enemies. А наши Миги так летят высоко ! Что их не видно из за туч облаков , зато мы знаем все что их ровный строй обороняет наш покой !
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