Lehmen Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 To launch from carrier, you need just give full power and wait until catapult engage. But until catapult is engaged, the plane is not moving, despite it on the full power! What holding it in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronin87 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 are you holding the throttle finger lifts before engaging full power? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehmen Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 You misunderstood me. I have no problems launching, it is just curiosity question: why plane is not running forward from catapult shuttle prematurely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RED Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 There is another bar holding the plane in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronin87 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I see you are asking IRL? as in once the yellow shirt in control give the point down the deck and the plane sits there in burn, why is it not propelled until the cat launches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehmen Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 There is another bar holding the plane in place. Aha! I see it now, thank you :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Got a launch bar on the nose wheel strut. Not sure about now but there's a hold back bar on the back. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehmen Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 why is it not propelled until the cat launches? Yes, that was my question. And I got an answer already :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronin87 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 learn somethin new every day. i was unaware of the hold back bar on the back of the nose gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramrod_45 Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 One end of the holdback bar fits into a slot in the Carrier deck the other end fits into a "U" shaped bracket on the aircraft's nose gear. The holdback bar has a built in weak point which is designed to fail when subjected to a given stress. The holdback bar is capable of retaining the aircraft in position in full afterburner only, or on an unrequested Cat operation with engines at idle , but will break when both AB power and a Cat launch happen together. Different types of holdback bar with varying breaking tolerances are carried on Carriers for different types of Aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehmen Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 Interesting, that it is actually designed to break. Brute, but somehow elegant solution, nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 There is another bar holding the plane in place. Thanks for the link, love it! _________________________________ Aorus Z390 Extreme MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.0 GHz | EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 Ultra | 32 GB G Skill Trident Z 3600 MHz CL14 DDR4 Ram | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler | Corsair TX 850M PS | Samsung 970 Evo Plus M.2 NVMe SSD 1TB |TMWH Hotas with VPC WarBRD Base| Corsair Gamer 570x Crystal Case | HP Reverb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fakum Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 Yeah, and when they snap and dont fall out into the water, they are stuck in place until they pop loose again when they land and go flying down the flight deck when they trap a wire,,, possibly hitting someone,,,,,, ask me how I know :} Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit / ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming / AMD 7800X3D / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 64GB DDR5 6000 Ram / SSD M.2 SK hynix Platinum P41 2TB / MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X 24G / SteelSeries Arctis 7 Headset /LG-Ultragear 38" IPS LED Ultrawide HD Monitor (3840 x 1600) / Track IR4 / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Virpil HOTAS VPC Constellation ALPHA-R & VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehmen Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 Yeah, and when they snap and dont fall out into the water, they are stuck in place until they pop loose again when they land and go flying down the flight deck when they trap a wire,,, possibly hitting someone,,,,,, ask me how I know :} I was thinking that something like this could happen, but then I had convinced myself: no, it can not be, things like this are surely accounted for :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fakum Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 LOL,,, for the same reason we made sure that no one was standing in the "crotch" during recovering of aircraft. If you ever get to see the structure of the crotch, you just might see some scars in the steel. its not always the little things either. Rare, but it happens. A couple of years before I got nailed, I was pulling gear, and beside me was the flight deck chief. it was night time, so there was a bit more interval between traps. We were shooting the breeze between a trap and we got on the subject of being alert,,,, he went on to say how quick he became over the many years, and he could see anything coming. A few moments later, he was on the deck as he took a shot in the chest from one of these hold backs during the trap. He went down on a stretcher,,,, he never lived it down before he finished that tour,,,, :} Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit / ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming / AMD 7800X3D / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 64GB DDR5 6000 Ram / SSD M.2 SK hynix Platinum P41 2TB / MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X 24G / SteelSeries Arctis 7 Headset /LG-Ultragear 38" IPS LED Ultrawide HD Monitor (3840 x 1600) / Track IR4 / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Virpil HOTAS VPC Constellation ALPHA-R & VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lehmen Posted June 11, 2018 Author Share Posted June 11, 2018 he went on to say how quick he became over the many years, and he could see anything coming. A few moments later, he was on the deck as he took a shot in the chest from one of these hold backs during the trap This is what I call "tough luck" :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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