I'm about to friggin kill my self!

[hitman]

You have to open your ip address for your router.

[CoNa]

Ok i'll try that. I can be easilly reset, right? that's what i gathered.

 

How/ where is network settings?

 

Correct it's easily reset.

I got the swedish version so bear with me if I don't get the names of the different controls correct, but I think you can follow.

 

First of all open, a commad window (run/ type in cmd and a DOS window will open. Type ipconfig

you will get something like this

 

IP-adress: 192.168.0.2

Netmask:255.255.255.0

Standard gateway:192.168.0.1

 

Write this down you will need it soon.

 

Start/controlpanel/Network connections/

Here you see the LAN card / Wirless connection you use.

Right click on the connection / properties/ scroll down to Internet Protocol (TCP IP) /double click.

 

Here you will see something like this:

Obtain an IP adress automatically

and .....

Use following IPadress

 

Mark the "button" Use following IPadress

then fill in the first three lines

IP adress: out in the adress you want here

Net mask: 255.255.255.0

Standard Gateway: use ip you got from the ipconfig...

 

DNS server: use the same ip as the Standard gateway.

Save and reboot

 

If you dont want to have the ip set on a specific adress,

just go in there again and set it on "obtain ip adress automatically" and also set the DNS server to be obtained automatically then reboot.

[Aeroscout]

i dont quite follow... Is there a simple way to just get the "obtain IP adress automatically" window? all i want is a defferent IP than my brothers.

[skinners]

i dont quite follow... Is there a simple way to just get the "obtain IP adress automatically" window? all i want is a defferent IP than my brothers.

 

If both of you can surf the net at the same time then you already have a different IP address.

[dodger42]

I had the exact same problem before. Let me give you some background no the networking side. I

 

If the two computers can browse the Internet, they have separate IP addresses (these are addresses like 10.x.x.x or 192.x.x.x etc, and are NOT publicly addressable, meaning a computer across the internet cannot ping that address directly - only systems on your local LAN can).

 

You have one router. That router has an external IP address (external is publicly addressable, meaning it can - firewall permitting, be pinged from another system via the Iternet) and it also has an internal IP address. When any of the two systems sends packets (IP data) through the router (your default gateway), the router performs network address translation (NAT) such that the source IP address is changed to that of the routers external IP address. This ensures that packets coming back from the internet know how to get back to the source.

 

When a packet returns from the internet to your router, the router checks its NAT table, modifies the destination IP address and then forwards the packet to that destination inside your network.

 

I had the exact same problem, and to resolve it, you would need to perform some tricky NAT tasks, which could possibly break other connections and more importantly, almost NO consumer gateways provide for powerful NAT configuration. So, THE solution is to use LAN mode.

[Aeroscout]

I tried that. still no cigar.

 

Sorry if i'm being a pain...

[dodger42]

Tried what? LAN?

 

Can you ping the other system? You could try telnetting to the game port, see if you get a connection refused. That would tell you its fw/security related.

[Aeroscout]

no, it's exactally the same as if I try over the internet. Like I said earlyer, it might be Avast anti virus. could it be?

[dodger42]

no, it's exactally the same as if I try over the internet. Like I said earlyer, it might be Avast anti virus. could it be?

 

Highly unlikely a pure AV product would cause it, but disabling it will tell. If your AV also has built in firewall or intrusion prevention, then it may also be causing it.

[Kuky]

Dodger and IguanaKing are correct. The IP address seen on the internet is the IP of the router. The IP of the PC's are inetrnal IP addresses and can only bee seen by the router. You can share internet connection with as many PC's as you like because its the router that's directing IP packets to each PC.

 

You can't connect two PC's to the HL though bacause they are on same external IP address. You will need separate internet connections (accounts).

[Kuky]

What I think you might be possible (but I never tried thia) is to create a server not through HL, then tell all people who want to connect your external IP, and who ever is sharing internet connection with you to connect via internal IP address of your PC (through LAN)

[Allochtoon]

What I think you might be possible (but I never tried thia) is to create a server not through HL, then tell all people who want to connect your external IP, and who ever is sharing internet connection with you to connect via internal IP address of your PC (through LAN)

 

This works, and i used this method. Just host with one pc with hyperlobby, and connect with the other pc to the internal ip adress. But why simply not use the internal LAN ip host solution instead?

[Kuky]

I think he wants to have 2 people flying online. Otherwise LAN option is much better as with LAN connection you will get no lag at all ;)

[hitman]

 

You can't connect two PC's to the HL though bacause they are on same external IP address. You will need separate internet connections (accounts).

 

No thats not technically correct cuz Ive done it many times while still in Texas.

[Kuky]

No thats not technically correct cuz Ive done it many times while still in Texas.

 

I'd like to know how did you do it then?

[VMFA-Blaze]

Can't you change one of the system's ISP address's so that hyper see's 2 connections?

 

I know that you'll most likely get an conflicting ISP error report...but you'll then be able to LAN on one router ???

 

~S~

 

Blaze

[Design]

Some basics of networking. (let's see if my CCNA is fresh..., not acuratte description but I expect useful)

 

The ip is an address used on routing. It allows network traffic to reach different locations.

 

Each network card has an ip address. On switches only the switch uses ip, the rest is directed by the MAC address.

 

In this case, your router has one called Public IP that is given to you by the ISP.

It's the address used to "route" all the traffic that exits from your router to the ISP.

 

There are the private ip's, used by each card. Your pc it's for example 192.168.0.2

Your brother's pc is 192.168.0.3

Both connect to the "Gateway". The Gateway is your router. It should have an 192.168.0.1 address. The router connects to the ISP using the Public IP.

 

When a packet arrives to the router from the outside it has a way to know which application or computer has requested the data. By the MAC address and the logical ports. The Mac address is used to know which network card has requested the data, and the logical port to know which apllication has requested it. Each Network Card from the world has a unique MAC. (Network card = this thing where you plug the connector of the wire)

 

Some routers doesn't route well by MAC to your LAN (yes, if you have two pc's connected to a router with multiple ports you have a lan). It's recommended that you change on one pc the logical ports that use Lock On, at least server.

Also remember to access to your internal router configuration and OPEN the logical ports for both ip's (one ip per computer) on the NAT settings, due to the internal firewalls routers are used to have built-in.

 

I expect to give a bit of light to some of you. It's not an 100% accurate info, sorry; a bit forgotten all that knowledgment.

[Aeroscout]

Wait, so what do I have to do? how do I access the router.

 

Maybe your getting this confused. We can both play on hyper lobby so long as someone else has hosted the mission. we have played this way several times. however, we cannot connect if one of us has hosted.

 

and what is MAC?

[hitman]

I'd like to know how did you do it then?

 

Dont remember all that was done cuz tech support handled most of this and was approx. 2 years ago...but I do remember we had it set up on a router AND a hub, and most of the proxies were set by the ISP tekkie. I couldnt give you much more than that. I WILL say that the tekkie encountered a lot of DNS errors while getting this sorted out.

[hitman]

Wait, so what do I have to do? how do I access the router.

To access your router first youll need to know what kind (brand name and model) of router you have. Then you go to your supplier website and select your router, do a search and they should provide you with an IP address for that router. You type in that ip address in your Internet Exploder search bar and it will take you directly to your router settings.

[sojourner]

Kuky,

 

You can connect with 2 pcs from the same household. This is achieved because even though you have 1 external IP address, each packet has contained within the header a source and destination that is stripped off as it travels up the OSI model. Hyperlobby should simply see 2 requests from the same IP as opposed to 1.

 

Sorry, I am getting called away to a meeting here so I have to make this quick. I can say from the past that I have had problems getting games to talk when they use different OS versions. I have had nothing but problems getting XP to talk with Win ME. Various connection issues with a myriad of different problems.

 

Most of the suggestions here are sound and you should make sure they are in order first. Also, make sure you are not double firewalling with hardware as well as software. Make sure your ports are forwarded for both machines on the router. You probably do not have an IP conflict but make sure anyway.

 

If all else fails, get a cross over cable and eliminate all the hardware entirely and you can troubleshoot from there out.

 

Crap, that meeting is calling.

 

Hope that helps

[Design]

Try Start/Execute, type cmd and press enter on windows XP.

Now you are on the "console" .

then type "ipconfig /all" (with the space and without the ").

Here you can see: The ip of the network cards, the ip of the gateway, and other things you don't need.

DHCP is a protocol that allows routers to negotiate the ip's automatically and assign them without need of you do anything.

[Aeroscout]

where/ how do i get to this Enter/Exicute thing?

 

The forum link golfsierra2 mentioned, said all you needed was a Hub, what exactly is that and will it solve my problem?

[hitman]

Execute = run command

[Aeroscout]

Ya, i know that, but how do i make the command?