What to get?

[BlacleyCole]

I’m going to build a new desktop for dcs this Falland will be buying the parts Over the summer . My budget. Will bee between $1000-$1500 give ot take. What’s the best stuff that works with dcs? I thing 32gb ddr4 Ram should cover that area I’m not seeeiing the need for 64gb at this time. I’m thinking a gigabyte or asus MB with an Intel chipset. I have i7 in my laptop thinking of Something In the 4.5 -5 speed zone not overclocked, the new NVIDIA gtx-1180ti when it comes out . I’m thinking liquid cooler for both the CPU And GPU. Somewhere 7 fans for case air movement . A 500gb m.2 nvme drive for the os, a 2tb m.2 nvme drive for dcs Another for xp—11 and a 4tb. HDD for storing library tyype files and a 2ttb sata Ssd for the other apps. Welll did I miss something? What’s the best CPU’s and mb to get? Imthing. Master cool case and power supply.

[Johnny_Rico]

you are going to need a bit more than $1000-$1500 for that lot

[Demon_]

Master cool case and power supply.

 

 

I'm gonna have a heart attack... Forget the Cooler Master PSU. Get a Corsair AX, HX, TX v2, VX. XFX. Seasonic S12, M12, G Series, Energy Plus.

Edited July 3, 2018 by Demon_

[BitMaster]

2500€+ for this rig.

 

 

1180 is supposed to be 1600$/€, 350 CPU, 400-500 RAM, 250-500 SSD, case, psu, etc...

 

 

1500 will not even be enough for the 1180 GPU when it comes out.

 

 

1500 GPU

350 CPU

450 RAM

300 Board

500 SSD NVMe

 

150 Case

200 PSU

 

 

make the math

[iKyrThraad993i]

Honestly don't think the 1180 will be $1500 at all if most because it might be hard to get id say about $1000

 

They showed a online retailer showing 1500 which is either a place holder price or just a number since nobody knows the price of it.

[BitMaster]

Honestly don't think the 1180 will be $1500 at all if most because it might be hard to get id say about $1000

 

They showed a online retailer showing 1500 which is either a place holder price or just a number since nobody knows the price of it.

 

 

 

 

even if it's 500 less, 1500 total is not realistic if the GPU is 1 grand and RAM basically 450-550 for some nice 32GB..already close to 1.5 grand and no CPU MoBo SSD PSU Case yet....~2.5k

[BeastyBaiter]

Yep, that build is way outside your budget. I recommend looking at the i5-8600k, a basic Z370 motherboard, 16GB of RAM, and a gtx 1170 when it comes. Cut corners like its crunch time at the circle factory on the rest to stay in budget.

[BlacleyCole]

Well I wasn’t thinking of the GPU in that estimate

[cichlidfan]

Well I wasn’t thinking of the GPU in that estimate

 

It is the most expensive part of the package, so you must have been thinking 2500 to 3000 for a realistic total.

 

$2500 is my target for any new build, in recent years. That includes about $200 just for the PSU.

[Headwarp]

trying to stay within $1500 with today's gpu prices is going to be tough.

 

Personally - if you're going to build a desktop at any point - it's worth going big.

 

imo building an 8th gen system right now could potentially last a good 5-10 years.

 

Case - $50-$180 bucks

z370 MB - $100-$290

DDR 4 3200mhz ram - $180-$200 per 16Gb so $400 for 32gb (16 gb is fine for DCS imo)

i7 8th gen cpu - $300-$420 (i7 8086K turbos to 5ghz? Whaaat?, if my 8700k is any indication, it should handle 5ghz on all cores like a beast)

PSU - $60-$130 (modular is awesome)

AIO liquid cooling unit - $112-$140

970 Evo 500GB NVME - $200.

Personally I'd use at least a cheap 250gb 2.5" ssd as a boot drive, and dedicate the 500GB 970 Evo to simming. I've always followed a multiple drive philosphy with my builds.

Without the GPU, choosing the most expensive parts in my list we've reached your budget.

 

But what you could do, is invest in a 1060 6GB for $300 and easily find a cheap 1080p monitor to hold you over for the time being. , and save up for the next top of the line GPU next year, and sell the 1060 used. Then save up for an awsome 4k display or VR to utilize all that yummy gpu power. you'll have one hell of a rig for the next greatest gpu when they come out. Personally I think the 8700K, 8600K, , 8086k cpu have potential to take us through the next 5 years minimum with their achievable clockspeeds. And should an API be introduced that make better use of multicore CPUs or hyperthreading, we'll have 6c/12t to utilize it.

 

One advantage of building a desktop - you don't have to pay for everything all at once. Start off with the pieces you can afford and strike things off the list. The only downside to that is being limited to the manufacturer's warranty if you're outside of a return period on some parts should something go wrong during the build.

Edited July 5, 2018 by Headwarp

[lazduc]

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60.00 to 130.00 for a power supply? Spending more on the liquid cooling than the psu?

 

My advice...get at least 850 watts, and search for the best mfgs. They will be more than you specified. Cheap spec. power supplies kill systems.

 

IMHO Laz :D

[BeastyBaiter]

An overclocked 8700k + gtx 1080ti only uses about 450W for the whole system. And I have never come across a system killed by the psu. Blown psu's I've seen plenty of times, but toss in a new one and they always boot right up. In any case, I recommend a 550W to 750W bronze rated or higher PSU from a reputable brand such as Corsair. You also don't need to spend an arm and a leg on cooling. A good AIO only costs $75, everything beyond that is purely cosmetic since all those pumps are actually just rebrands of the exact same Asiatech pump (no joke, they really are). The only meaningful difference is fan noise but you may want to replace those anyways.

[Demon_]

I'm gonna have another heart attack.

[BeastyBaiter]

US pricing, Demon. That $75 AIO probably costs $18,000 in Canada.:P

[BitMaster]

If you start from Zero, it's a 5 grand thing, actually even more but most of the time one can reuse some older parts with confidence.

 

 

Add a modern gaming screen, Hotas, Rudders, some Speakers or decent Headphones, a Win10, etc etc...

 

 

I stopped counting at 5.5k back then for the rig in total. That is a realistic approach ( if from zero )

[BeastyBaiter]

I counted my whole setup after building my current machine, it worked out to $3500 I think. That includes controllers, monitor and even the TrackIR5 that's been sitting in a drawer since getting a Rift.

[BitMaster]

Sure, that's about where it starts without having a foul compromise.

 

 

now add a DIY Loop with Quick Connectors, 3 more SSD's and a few HDD's, a Gsync obulus and the German VAT and you scratch the 5K€.

 

 

I am glad I paid most w/o any VAT ;)

[iKyrThraad993i]

I hated building my setup. I had to luxury of buying my RAM and GPU at great market value thanks to High RAM and GPU Prices..

 

My CPU and Motherboard for 500 USD alone.

My budget was suppose to be 3,000 USD ended up spending $5,500 between the SSD Setup I have and the streaming setup that I added.

 

I must say having a 8700K and GTX 1080 I am really happy with my build even though it killed my pocket. But like I said couldn't be more happy with my setup

 

 

 

Now if you factor in my Controls and the other stuff I have light keyboard and headset im looking over $6,000

 

 

Well built Computer = Happy Gamer

[Headwarp]

60.00 to 130.00 for a power supply? Spending more on the liquid cooling than the psu?

 

My advice...get at least 850 watts, and search for the best mfgs. They will be more than you specified. Cheap spec. power supplies kill systems. Non modular options generally run about $30 less.

 

IMHO Laz :D

 

A fully modular gold rated EVGA 850w PSU is like $99 USD on sale right now @newegg. Sales are good. You can often find similar prices on corsair psu's as well.

 

I've had a 1000w (way more than I need) for the last 4 years and it's fine. I took apart and cleaned a 800w psu and helped a friend build a free (for him) i5 2500k system with it.

 

I've seen PSU's die due to a piece of dust or a cat hair.. systems boot right back up as soon as you replace the PSU. Risks for damage are mostly concerning PSU's that don't put out enough wattage to cover the system's power draw or insecure connections to valuable components, or using the wrong slots on a modular psu. i.e. cpu 8 pin has a different pin configuration than say - 6+2 pin PCI-E power. Or, gpu having 8 pin connections and the +2 isn't snug. Or no surge protector in a thunderstorm/power outtage.

 

Running a single GPU you likely won't be using more than 500-600w right now under full load. A little headroom never hurts, especially when you find modular PSU's on sale from respected brands with decent warranties. 850w + modular for $99 USD is a great deal and you'll likely never draw enough to have it at capacity.

 

My current build minus harddrives and gpu, monitor/headset from my previous system ran about $1300-1400 USD.. I've added a 250GB 970 evo for boot (not really doing much but maybe higher speeds for swap files vs the sata III ssd it replaced) and plan to add a 500gb 970 evo to put my sims on, followed by nvidia's next greatest consumer GPU.

 

And then i probably won't buy anything except additional ram or bigger nvme drives for it in the future.

 

Dude's got options.. and I've seen cheap PSU's run solid as a rock for years on end, and expensive PSU's let off a puff of smoke in it's last moments with the ONLY damage I've ever had to a component that wasn't a power supply being a fried memory controller on a motherboard from a power surge caused by a lightning strike/power outage out of decades of owning PC's I've personally put together.

 

EVGA at least has a minimum 5 year warranty on their PSU's if not longer.. it's been awhile since I've looked. They're quick about RMA's if needed as well. So yeah.. PSU $60-130 USD.. and they're almost always on sale when I look for them, and non-modular PSU's still doing the job at a lower price. Just messier cable management.

 

For me at least, it's easier to find a respected brand of PSU than it is to find one that should come with "Buyer beware" labels, as long as you're covering the needs of your system under full load, and everything that should be connected is connected and with the appropriate cable.

 

You can get a rough estimate of what wattage your system will draw before you even buy it with a quick google search using the string "PSU calculator"

Edited July 6, 2018 by Headwarp

[Demon_]

Easy

CPU overclock= 150w

1080Ti= 250w

MoBo= 50w

Others= 50w

500w X 90% (utilization)= 450w.

 

A gold certification PSU will generate 50w of heat :smartass: A bronze 80w :furious: At least, you need a gold, with 100% 105°C Japanese capacitors.

 

BeastyBaiter, the secret is in the taxes :lol:

Edited July 7, 2018 by Demon_

[Demon_]

Get a Tier 1, 2 or 2b PSU: https://www.thetechgame.com/Archives/t=5613293/power-supply-guide-the-good-and-the-bad.html