Good pc or bad?

[jonnyB3]

Hey

 

IS this any good to buy???? And this is the maximum amount i wanted to pay.........

 

PROCESSORIntel® Core® 2 Duo® Processor E6400(2.13GHz,1066MHz FSB,2MB L2 cache)

 

OPERATING SYSTEMGenuine Windows® XP Professional, SP2 (+ Media) - English

 

BUSINESS SUPPORTNo Business Support Required

 

MEMORY2.0GB 667MHz Non-ECC DDR2 SDRAM (2*1,024MB DIMM) Memory

 

HARD DRIVE160GB (7,200 rpm) Serial ATA2 Hard Drive

 

OPTICAL DRIVE16x DVD+/-RW Drive

 

GRAPHICS CARDATI Radeon X1300 PCIe 128MB,DVI w/VGA (Full Height)

 

MONITORDell 17" UltraSharp Black (TCO99) Flat Panel Monitor (1707FPv) UK/Irish

 

ALL FOR 638.00 GBP

[Groove]

Imho the Videocard is too low.

[britgliderpilot]

Could really do with a much better graphics card. X1950 or a top-end 7900 variant is best of the last generation and getting steadily cheaper . . . the 8800 will break your budget by a long way and the drivers aren't fixed yet.

 

And 160Gb is too small a hard drive these days . . . . you can pick up a 400Gb drive for £60 . . . .

 

 

Trouble is, there's not really anywhere you could save the money. Best bet is probably to buy it with the X1300 *wince* and save up for a bit until you can afford a graphics card that will deal with more than MS Paint :P

[Kuky]

Video card is too low, the CPU is not that bad and will handle lockon ok and I wouldn't worry about HDD capacity (unless you are working with video editing or other applications that need lot of HDD space).

[jonnyB3]

Yea i know the graphics card isnt good.....which is why i was hoping to get a much better one but im not sure what and if it will be compatible.

[yamangman]

By those specs and that price looks to me they saw you coming.

 

Just Price up the following on this site. Bigger HDD, better RAM, much better GPU, widescreen 19 inch monitor, all for less.

 

LN15048

Intel Core 2 Duo E6400, Socket 775, 2.13 GHz, 1066MHz FSB, Allendale Core, 2MB Cache, Retail 94.99 111.61

LN17825

ECS P965T-A iP965, S775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 533/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX 46.20 54.29

LN11596

2GB (2x1GB) CorsairTwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5-5-5-12 68.64 80.65

LN17225

320 Gb Samsung HD321KJ Spinpoint T, SATA300, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache, 9 ms, NCQ 43.20 50.76

LN13548

Samsung SH-S183A/BEBN 18x DVD±R, 8x DVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, DVD-RAM x12, SATA, Black, OEM + Nero 17.01 19.99

LN16084

19" Asus VW192S Black LCD, 1440x900, 5 ms, 800:1, 330 cd/m2, Widescreen, Speakers 103.59 121.72

LN17619

256MB XFX 7950GT, XXX, PCI-E (x16), Mem 1600MHz, GPU 610MHz, 24 Pipes, 2x Dual Link DVI-I/HDTV 134.49 158.03

 

 

Net Total 508.12

 

Carriage 11.74

 

V.A.T. 90.98

 

TOTAL 610.84

 

http://www.scan.co.uk

[bramski]

If you can throw a PC together have a look at this for 600 squids. No monitor but you can pick one up for about another 100 on top of that.

 

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/

 

[britgliderpilot]

If you can throw a PC together have a look at this for 600 squids. No monitor but you can pick one up for about another 100 on top of that.

 

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/

 

 

Good deal on that 8800!

 

You can pick up a 7950GT for Ј100 if you're lucky . . . but heck, at that price I'd take the 8800 and grit my teeth until they fix the drivers properly :D

 

 

edit - I've just noticed that the Ј144 didn't include VAT. Still a good price for a good card . . . . but might put the balance more back towards the last gen card if you're really on a tight budget.

 

The new 4Mb cache 6320 and 6420 CPUs look to be an overclocker's dream - out of interest, are we yet sure they're not 6600s and 6700s that failed quality control?

[Groove]

Now that is what i call a community !

[jonnyB3]

WOW i rang up overclockers and they said all this is compatible,

[britgliderpilot]

WOW i rang up overclockers and they said all this is compatible

 

It's also £800 and doesn't include Windows yet ;)

 

 

. . . . nice spec, though :)

[jonnyB3]

Ah im not worried about windows i have that sorted however i need to know whether i need a thermal pad for the processor/heatsink?

Basicly i need to find out whats best for the heatsink and processor in cooling terms?

Anyone?

[yamangman]

If the CPU you've bought is not OEM, it will come with a reference cooler and theremal compund already applied, also, every aftermarket CPU fan i've bought has come with a sachet of thermal compound supplied. Personally i'd gor for the XFX 7950GT XXX GPU as it is passivly cooled, but I much prefer a quiet PC.

[jonnyB3]

OK,

 

Can anyone tell me whether a thermal compound-white or silver or thermal pads are best for this heatsinc?,

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-002-NC

[Pilotasso]

Jonny whats your budget? You can work arround components with the ammount of money your aiming at. Im studying components for my new machine myself (Im going to be a bit more bold in the specs though). Just shoot your budget and Ill point you to a system that will be the best possible for that money.

[jonnyB3]

700 GBP this system is 800 i know but we have a buisiness and can get the VAT back.

[Rhino104]

Not sure if that MOBO is an SLI or Crossfire board, but I would get one that has it so you can upgrade it in the future. I did with my new box and so when I need 2 8800 GTX's in SLI, (years down the road) I wont need a whole new mobo, which means a whole new system IMHO.

[Aeroscout]

May I make one sugestion about the CPU?

 

Unless you want to stick with intel for some reason, I would suggest AMD. tpycally, you can get better prices on faster CPUs with them.

 

just my 2 cents...

[Pilotasso]

Ok Jonny I studied your case and came up with the following:

1pound=1.5є aprox then

800pound=1400є

 

CPU: E6700=307.7є

MOBO: Asus P5N-E SLI=119.4є

MEM: TEAM ELITE 2x1GB KIT= 118.6є

HD: Western Digital SATAII 320GB= 84є

GFX: BFG 8800 GTS 320MB =339.9є

Case: Antec 900=106.6є

PSU: Corsair 520W=109.5є

DVD: Pioneer Dual layer DVD-RW recorder=33.3є

Screen: TFT Asus 19" 192s 5ms=187.4є

 

TOTAL=1407.2є

In britain youll probably get away with this by 700 Pound as I used slightly higher portuguese typical prices for my refference.

This is practicaly high end with the budget you wanted.

 

Ok heres why I chose each of the components:

 

This 650i MOBO is the cheapest with the most versatile best perfoming chipset youll ever get short of high end 680i NVIDIA chipsets. You even have an option to make SLI later on if you wish, for the same prices as the 965 chipsets. You just cant get wrong with this one.

Chose western Digital Hard drive because their almost inaudible ( I cant hear mine at all) and have rock solid perfomances even when their filling up. I have a maxtor and a WD disk drives in my current machine and I can say depite their theorical perfomance should be practicaly equal I just feel WD to be operating much smoother than the maxtor one (wich is also alot noisier and chopier after 50% space taken). I have alsways owned WD drives and whenever I paired them with other drives of other brands like seagate, quantum or maxtor, I have always experienced the best from the WD one. All other brands but WD have had disk physical damage torwards the end of their lives. Never had problems with WD.

 

BFG offers life time warranty and I chose it over EVGA's GFX's (both of wich are overclocked by factory). TEAM ELITE mem's are the cheapest arround and have been recieving very positive feedback from enthusiats in overclocking and agressive timings.

I left stock cooler on because artic freezer isnt much better than intels cooler as you might think. With as much cooling from the case you got, you dont need heavy artilery like the thermalright 120 or the Tuniq tower 120 (both of wich will only help a much hotter quad core or an 6000+ CPU's) and save some pennies in the process. There are reports you can overclock the E6700 this way all the way to 3.5 GHZ easy and stable.

 

If this is realy the budget your aiming at then this systems specs kicks the butt of your previous one by a large margin and I would expect you to be able to max out all detail settings in LOMAC with FPS to spare.

 

I hope this helped. :)

[KeZmo]

OK,

 

Can anyone tell me whether a thermal compound-white or silver or thermal pads are best for this heatsinc?,

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-002-NC

 

Arctic Silvers what u want.

 

 

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=AC-000-AC

[bramski]

May I make one sugestion about the CPU?

 

Unless you want to stick with intel for some reason, I would suggest AMD. tpycally, you can get better prices on faster CPUs with them.

 

just my 2 cents...

 

 

Not since the cheap C2D cores that OC like crazy hit the market, theres never been a better time to go Intel.

[hitman]

The processor Im running seems to be pretty damn good for the speed it is clocked at, and the fact that its for a laptop. Before I bought this laptop I had a dilema, was either a system similar to what your building, but a little bit less tweaked. For roughly the same price your building that for, I went with a 7950 256mb video card and a 500w psu, with a Intel e6400, 2 gigs of DDR2-6000+ (dont know the exact fsb) and water cooled WITH Vista Ultimate OEM for roughly 1300 bucks total American. I might shoot for that same exact system if I can sell my laptop shortly, only thing is Ill have a more moderate budget to work with this time around. ;)

[VMFA-Blaze]

Not since the cheap C2D cores that OC like crazy hit the market, theres never been a better time to go Intel.

 

Yes AMD is not cutting edge at the moment.. I was a big AMD fan until the the newest 2 Core Duo's came out ...

 

I'm now using an e6600 and this is the best that I've been able to get Lock On to run by far....

 

 

~S~

 

 

Blaze

[silverliu]

Yes， the video card need update.

[VMFA-Blaze]

Oh and by the way the 8800 is also the best choice for GPU's at the moment... The drivers work very well with Lock On with one exception ..

The shadows can't be run at high settings, but that's about the only real issue ...

 

~S~

 

Blaze