Iranian F-14A (AM) A-A loadout

[Glimmer]

Heatblur, what weapons do you plan to release on Iranian F-14A (AM)? :)

 

Iranian AIM-7 / 9 copies, Fakour-90, air-to-air Hawk (pic 3 and 4), R-27s (E maybe) (don't know about T version).... maybe R-73 (I don't have photos and any proofs about it, sorry :( )

 

And what about version of aircraft? It will be only F-14A from 80s? Or you will try to make F-14AM (I know... too hard for search information)? :)

 

[OnlyforDCS]

I think you're gonna have to settle for the F14A once it hits, and the Iranian airforce skin. These brilliant guys have their hands full just getting the B out the door.

 

On the bright side, the A should be a more capable variant of the AM version. :thumbup:

[AeriaGloria]

Would still be fun throwing Alamos and Hawks from a cat

[Gunslinger1-1]

Hi there. the project TOFAN ( firing R-27 from F-14 ) was canceled due to AWG-9 was unable to guide R-27. but the R-73 was tested successful but held as a alternative missile for the tomcat.

AIM-23C HAWK (project sedjil) was very successful and has archived one victory in 1988 by shooting down Iraqi MIG-29A. F-14 can only carry 2 AIM-23C. Fakour-90 is upgraded AIM-23C in AIM-54A body so tomcat can carry 6 of them. some news reported that Fakour-90 is using active homing seeker but this is not proven yet.

[Glimmer]

Hi there. the project TOFAN ( firing R-27 from F-14 ) was canceled due to AWG-9 was unable to guide R-27. but the R-73 was tested successful but held as a alternative missile for the tomcat.

AIM-23C HAWK (project sedjil) was very successful and has archived one victory in 1988 by shooting down Iraqi MIG-29A. F-14 can only carry 2 AIM-23C. Fakour-90 is upgraded AIM-23C in AIM-54A body so tomcat can carry 6 of them. some news reported that Fakour-90 is using active homing seeker but this is not proven yet.

 

Thank you for this info, man! :)

 

Do IRIAF have any modern AIM-7 / AIM-9 copies?)

[Eldur]

Some interesting information here, didn't about the AIM-23C. R-27 on the Tomcat looks interesting, too bad the AWG can't home it in. Would definately be great to see those real loadouts possible eventually since the F-14 is one of the major assets of the IRIAF.

 

[Gunslinger1-1]

as I know IRIAF is using AIM-7E-4 on the F-14.

also IRIAF is now using AIM-9P and AIM-9L (Iranian made AIM-9 named FATER) on tomcats.

during Iran-Iraq war. the most successful missile for the TOMCAT was AIM-54A with scoring 70% of 110-160 kills of TOMCAT. the sparrow has scored one or two kills during war :noexpression:

the rest of the kills was scored by M61A1 and AIM-9P and some maneuver kills.

AIM-54 has scored 3 kills by one missile by shooting down 3 MIG-23s.

Edited September 8, 2018 by -= IRIAF =- Gunslinger

[turkeydriver]

From what Ive read the Hawk kill was dropped from an F-14 but guided by a ground hawk radar. It also had problems working with the AWG-9

[Gunslinger1-1]

From what Ive read the Hawk kill was dropped from an F-14 but guided by a ground hawk radar. It also had problems working with the AWG-9

 

that is wrong data. HAWK is being produced as the TOMCAT main weapon named FAKOUR-90 in AIM-54 body and the AWG-9 can guide this missile without any problem. FAKOUR-90 is a medium range missile ( about 100KM) using upgraded HAWK SAM missile in AIM-54 body. the seeker of missile is still unknown but in the test video pilot used FOX ONE code for firing the missile.

[Glimmer]

as I know IRIAF is using AIM-7E-4 on the F-14..

 

AIM-7E-4 is Iraninan mod?

 

I just know only about AIM-7E-2.

 

https://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/disp_pdf.cfm?DACH_RECNO=600

[Glimmer]

Finally, we have: :)

 

• AIM-54A (unknown engine model)
  
• Fakour-90 (improved body AIM-54A without Active Radar)
  
• Sedjil (AIM-23C (air-to-air MIM-23 Hawk))
  
• AIM-7E (E-2 ???)
  

 

• AIM-9P
  
• Fater (Iranian version AIM-9L)
  
• R-73
  

[turkeydriver]

How many AIM-23 are in service with the F-14AM...…..

[Mig Fulcrum]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_aerial_victories_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war

 

This could be interesting.

[Gunslinger1-1]

How many AIM-23 are in service with the F-14AM...…..

 

HAWK missile is being mass production in both AIM-23C and FAKOUR-90 versions.

[Oceandar]

as I know IRIAF is using AIM-7E-4 on the F-14.

also IRIAF is now using AIM-9P and AIM-9L (Iranian made AIM-9 named FATER) on tomcats.

during Iran-Iraq war. the most successful missile for the TOMCAT was AIM-54A with scoring 70% of 110-160 kills of TOMCAT. the sparrow has scored one or two kills during war :noexpression:

the rest of the kills was scored by M61A1 and AIM-9P and some maneuver kills.

AIM-54 has scored 3 kills by one missile by shooting down 3 MIG-23s.

70 % ? OMG, thats scary. Can't imagine how lethal it is in DCS.

[RaceFuel85]

70 % ? OMG, thats scary. Can't imagine how lethal it is in DCS.

 

It won't be that bad if you know how to counter it. There's going to be a lot of stupid Tomcat drivers chucking spears at RMAX and wondering why they're missing.

[Scrape]

Success and failure of tactics will be on both the sides, the Tomcat drivers and their adversaries. The first 6 months will be exciting as people hone skills and try new techniques and strategies. I'll wring ever last bit of performance and strategy out of the Tomcat, and I know I won't be alone.

[frixon28]

Wow never really thought about their weapons loadout tbh, they won't stand a chance against US F-14s and anything else, especially in a modern setting

[OnlyforDCS]

Tbh, they won't stand a chance against US F-14s and anything else, especially in a modern setting

 

I don't think thats the point of this thread ;) There are obviously quite a few Iranian virtual pilots who would like to see their version of this beautiful bird in the sim.

[Magot]

Before time I posted what exactly used IIAF and IRIAF in war.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=216045

 

In fact IRIAF in war (Iraq/Iran) used a original US weapons.

 

Air to Air loadout

AIM-54A Phoenix (ECCM was there a bit downgraded against same AIM-54A used in same time in US NAVY)

AIM-7E-4 Sparrow - from deliveries for F-4s for IIAF (AIM-7F never been delivered to Iran, but before islamic revolution it was planned)

AIM-9P Sidewinder- from deliveries for F-4s/ F-14As for IIAF

 

So no need create any "modern" IRIAF misiles which are in fact non-documented weapons.

There is no chance found any descriptions for example how fakour misile in real work/ fly.

And maybe it's just lying by Iran for "deception the enemy" that they have succeeded in reversing engineering to create the copy AIM-54A.

Maybe here is not a copy of AIM-54 called Fakour.

And MIM - Hawk adapted for F-14, was canceled a never used in action. There was big problem with cooperaction with radar AWG-9.

Edited September 17, 2018 by Magot

[Magot]

70 % ? OMG, thats scary. Can't imagine how lethal it is in DCS.

 

Its not true. Real confirmed is 62 kills by AIM-54As and 20 kill by AIM-54As are unconfirmed for whole time use in IIAF/ IRIAF.

Rest confirmations what is know on "west sources" is that several kills was hit by "AAM", there is no specifed what exactly misile was used (AIM-54/ AIM-7/ AIM-9)

 

All kills was by original US AIM-54A Phoenix. Not "Fakour".

Edited September 17, 2018 by Magot

[turkeydriver]

HAWK missile is being mass production in both AIM-23C and FAKOUR-90 versions.

 

"mass production" lol- like your F-5 copy? FAKOUR-90 isn't a hawk and has nothing to do with it. "AIM-23C" doesn't tune to an AWG-9, but an F-14 can serve as an airborne launch vehicle if a HAWK radar has a target. I'm interested in what technology they use for the battery in the Fakour 90 to keep it operating at range...

 

So far I'm sorry buts its all fluff. I'll credit the Iranians keeping maybe 24 jets near FMC and the others able to get airborne. So you have an AIM-9P shooter and an AIM-7E-4 shooter. Other missiles "tested" and in "mass production" but only seen in publicity shots and never a live AIM-54 or FAKOUR 90 on a patrol jet.

[Gunslinger1-1]

"mass production" lol- like your F-5 copy? FAKOUR-90 isn't a hawk and has nothing to do with it. "AIM-23C" doesn't tune to an AWG-9, but an F-14 can serve as an airborne launch vehicle if a HAWK radar has a target. I'm interested in what technology they use for the battery in the Fakour 90 to keep it operating at range...

 

So far I'm sorry buts its all fluff. I'll credit the Iranians keeping maybe 24 jets near FMC and the others able to get airborne. So you have an AIM-9P shooter and an AIM-7E-4 shooter. Other missiles "tested" and in "mass production" but only seen in publicity shots and never a live AIM-54 or FAKOUR 90 on a patrol jet.

 

F-5 and no other jets is not being produced. that F-5 copy was test bed for a third gen fighter using forth gen avionics ( I really dont have any idea why they have done this :( ).

but the thing is I dont know what is your document and what is that source of your document that is saying AWG-9 ( IRIAF had made a major upgrade in the AWG-9 with replacing all old style electronics with new ones) is unable to guide hawk missile. that is wrong data because there are +20 hawk fire tests from tomcat with 80% confirmed hits against target drones and two shots against real enemy jets in iran-iraq war. ( one kill confirmed. target: MIG-29A ).

FAKOUR-90: there is no details about this missile but the thing is they said that this missile is a medium range AAM in AIM-54s body. and in the test, pilot used code FOX ONE. so I think that it is HAWK inside the missile.

and that is true, we have only 20-30 cats flying of 70 available F-14:cry:.

IRIAF has old aircrafts and until new jets are purchased, they have to keep these jets alive.

[Gunslinger1-1]

Its not true. Real confirmed is 62 AIM-54As and 20 AIM-54As are unconfirmed for whole time use in IIAF/ IRIAF.

Rest confirmations what is know on "west sources" is that several kills was hit by "AAM", there is no specifed what exactly misile was used (AIM-54/ AIM-7/ AIM-9)

 

All kills was by original US AIM-54A Phoenix. Not "Fakour".

 

there are several sources about the number of kills scored by tomcat. but I have some F-14 pilots in contact and they say it is about 110-160 kills ( I believe it is 112 kills as I counted and I found cues of these kills) and 70% were scored by AIM-54A (not FAKOUR-90, FAKOUR has introduced in 2015 and it was not available in 1980!!!). I have count only one kill with AIM-7E:noexpression:

[Gunslinger1-1]

I don't think thats the point of this thread ;) There are obviously quite a few Iranian virtual pilots who would like to see their version of this beautiful bird in the sim.

 

+1 :smilewink: