Radar: TWS drops lock

[Esac_mirmidon]

Everyone has his own preferences about what is most important.

 

But the real important thing is the M-2000 overhaul is beeing worked on.

[D4n]

Well, clearly PvP is the future of DCS, and to be successful at CAP the pilot has to be as stealthy as possible, thus emit only as much as required (thus TWS). Whether there's a green triangle or not on HUD doesn't impact one's combat performance (afaik).

[Schmidtfire]

I do play both PvP and PvE. Since 2014. But usually not on Blueflag. What that now has to do with anything?

 

Look. Flying M2000C I wait until the target is really close and usually go right into a hardlock. M2000C is best used in-close and personal with Super530D. MagicII, I only carry cause they sort of look cool and the D2M sensor.

 

Working TWS would be nice, but Im not loosing any fights because of it. And I don't really care about a highscore anyway. There are other flight games or upcoming MAC to cover that "competitive" game stuff.

 

I do understand your opinion. But if Razbam thinks it is better to update the basics first like HUD/PCA im fine with it. They know development better than us. TWS and overhaul of radar will be great, but one step at the time.

 

Hornet on the other hand is in desperate need of TWS for IFF and Aim-120 launch and still nothing there... just to put things in perspective. It could be worse :music_whistling:

 

And I don't agree on your assesment. I think PvE will at least be as big if not bigger than PvP.

MAC will be where PvP shines.

Edited January 24, 2019 by Schmidtfire

[D4n]

I wait until the target is really close

You mean in wide radar search? That's the thing... Every second you emit on BlueFlag Persian Gulf (team blue, since only they have M2000) gives all enemy Hornet (with their uber radar) and Gazelle Mistral pilots a perfect SA...

[D4n]

And they already have player GCI nearly 24/7 fyi

[Schmidtfire]

Well. The odds are not in your favour. They have better avionics and better missiles and GCI so you can’t hide... Sounds like a fail, tws or no tws.

 

I also want to have all those great updates, but lets leave the development to the devs who actually knows the code and how the different systems are tied together.

[D4n]

Ok. I just hope Zeus knows about the importance of it to be fixed very very soon.

[jojo]

There's something I don't get, Mirage 2000C RDI is supposed to be blue and work with Hornet, not against it...

 

 

[D4n]

RDI?

The current BlueFlag setup places Mirage on the team to simulate opfor mirages (some countries around Persian Gulf had/have Mirage 2000 apparently)

[Thump]

 

Hornet on the other hand is in desperate need of TWS for IFF and Aim-120 launch and still nothing there... just to put things in perspective. It could be worse :music_whistling:

 

 

To add perspective, the Mirage has been "fully released" for years now. :tomato:

[Schmidtfire]

To add perspective, the Mirage has been "fully released" for years now. :tomato:

 

"Fully released" does not mean it's fully functional. It is just not early access :megalol:

 

In the meantime, Im pulling the trigger on MiG-19P. Should be a lot of fun to zip around in while I wait for the Mirage overhaul.

Edited January 24, 2019 by Schmidtfire

[jojo]

RDI?

The current BlueFlag setup places Mirage on the team to simulate opfor mirages (some countries around Persian Gulf had/have Mirage 2000 apparently)

 

Hep, United Arab Emirates used Mirage 2000 EAD/ RAD. Most were converted to Mirage 2000-9 and serve alongside new built fighters.

 

But UAE is both French and US ally (F-16E Block 60/ 61).

So I still don't understand why you're flying OPFOR Mirage 2000.

 

Waiting for Tomcat Iran has MiG-29 and F-5E.

 

I will let you search by yourself what RDI stands for...

[Schmidtfire]

That is one of the reasons I tend to avoid Blueflag.... and fly AJS-37 Viggen as redfor?

[D4n]

Yep, and we don't know which patch "destroyed" the TWS

[D4n]

That is one of the reasons I tend to avoid Blueflag.... and fly AJS-37 Viggen as redfor?

 

Idk, I dont have Viggen

[ZHeN]

Hep, United Arab Emirates used Mirage 2000 EAD/ RAD. Most were converted to Mirage 2000-9 and serve alongside new built fighters.

 

But UAE is both French and US ally (F-16E Block 60/ 61).

So I still don't understand why you're flying OPFOR Mirage 2000.

 

Waiting for Tomcat Iran has MiG-29 and F-5E.

 

I will let you search by yourself what RDI stands for...

 

Mirage on BF PG is cosplaying iranian Mirage F1

there are simply no modern eastern clickable modules in DCS, that's why mirage is on that side

and viggen

balance reasons

 

funny how this thread derailed

[Dagger71]

You mean in wide radar search? That's the thing... Every second you emit on BlueFlag Persian Gulf (team blue, since only they have M2000) gives all enemy Hornet (with their uber radar) and Gazelle Mistral pilots a perfect SA...

 

 

Schmidtfire is right and actually describes the best tactic for flying the M2K!

 

 

 

He may be able to teach you a few things about the M2K:P

 

 

The only way to remain stealthy in an M2k is to be radar off. TWS is NOT and never was stealthy radar. It emits therefore it broadcasts.

 

 

Now this is NOT to say there isn't a problem with the radar. But I'm willing to wait and see what they come up with.

[D4n]

Dagger I didn't claim that Schmidt is "wrong"... He just didn't mention yet whether he uses radar in wide, medium or narrow beam when scanning... And of course M2000 is best when close to the enemy. I didn't claim anything else there either. But good luck trying to get close on BlueFlag Persia without a GCI in your team (and with EWR that only updates once every few minutes)

[D4n]

Edited

[Schmidtfire]

Dagger I didn't claim that Schmidt is "wrong"... He just didn't mention yet whether he uses radar in wide, medium or narrow beam when scanning... And of course M2000 is best when close to the enemy. I didn't claim anything else there either. But good luck trying to get close on BlueFlag Persia without a GCI in your team (and with EWR that only updates once every few minutes)

 

Again, TWS won't solve the issues your having on that map at that server. You are trying to hide on a flat map against superior airframes, sensors and weapons ;)

And you think it's tough now.... just wait until the Datalink, SA page and towable decoys come into play. No more hiding at all against F/A-18C.

 

I always fly "vanilla" with default radar settings. Sometimes I change scan up to 80. In close I use the special modes. Because 1: It's effective and 2: It makes me feel special.

 

PM me if you want more tips and tactics on the M2000C.

 

Anyways, let's get back on topic wich is the TWS bug. Acknowledged, reported and will be fixed.

Edited January 24, 2019 by Schmidtfire

[D4n]

Not flat map in many areas... If u checked my YouTube channel u'd see. South of Khasab and north of Bandar Lengeh is all mountains, but at least good hills for low level flight.

[jojo]

Mirage on BF PG is cosplaying iranian Mirage F1

there are simply no modern eastern clickable modules in DCS, that's why mirage is on that side

and viggen

balance reasons

 

funny how this thread derailed

 

 

Yep, Iranian Mirage F1 are Iraqi Mirage F1 who fleed destruction in 2003.

No support, no (French) weapons, they are only good for parade.

[D4n]

Anyways, let's get back on topic wich is the TWS bug. Acknowledged, reported and will be fixed.

 

Hopefully before end of spring 2019. It seems Razbam still doesn't understand how important this fix is to be capable of dealing properly vs. enemy F/A-18C players in PvP. Any ideas to make them aware of the importance?

[Buckeye]

Hopefully before end of spring 2019. It seems Razbam still doesn't understand how important this fix is to be capable of dealing properly vs. enemy F/A-18C players in PvP. Any ideas to make them aware of the importance?

 

 

 

Does the Hornet have TWS currently?

 

 

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[jojo]

Does the Hornet have TWS currently?

 

 

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As we speak, only Latent Track While Scan (LTWS).

Which means you must put the radar cursor over the contact to get data (soft lock).