Official reponse on LITENING placement?

[med-taha]

 

 

 

 

nothing to see here this is not a USMC Hornet and that is not a litening pod on station 4.

Nice catch:detective:

[Banzaiib]

For now, ED is modelling a US Lot 20 (USN Originally, but USMC features as well).

 

There are no export specific features (Lights, Rebuilt Wing Mechanisms, rebuilt Nose Gear, etc), So I wouldnt expect anything about new Pod Adapters, just to curb expectations.

 

ie Dont blow a gasket when it hits OB and its not cheek mountable, because no one stated it was going to be, and none of the planned features list would imply it would be either.

 

LITENING pod was not a planned feature... it's a stop-gap because they're taking forever to develop ATFLIR

 

The LITENING pod can be mounted on any pylon (except the wingtips, of course)

 

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Edited January 28, 2019 by Banzaiib

[gekoiq]

 

*snip*

 

nothing to see here this is not a USMC Hornet and that is not a litening pod on station 4.

 

Hey I'm more than willing to admit when I'm wrong, that is the first time I've ever heard of or seen a LITENING on any other station beside center-line. Read a lot of books and searched long and hard on the interwebs and have never seen that, so cool! If that was a real thing, actually used operationally (I've still never seen a picture of a deployed marine hornet with it anywhere other than centerline) then I hope we get it, if it was just a mock-up and not used operationally I still wouldn't expect to get it in game.

[Bones1775]

The LITENING pod can be mounted on any pylon (except the wingtips, of course)

 

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i see where you a going but i would have to say that probably not on 6. i don't know of there being an adapter for that side.

[Bones1775]

Hey I'm more than willing to admit when I'm wrong, that is the first time I've ever heard of or seen a LITENING on any other station beside center-line. Read a lot of books and searched long and hard on the interwebs and have never seen that, so cool! If that was a real thing, actually used operationally (I've still never seen a picture of a deployed marine hornet with it anywhere other than centerline) then I hope we get it, if it was just a mock-up and not used operationally I still wouldn't expect to get it in game.

 

i won't say it was ever used on 4 opperationally either. i've seen on more that one occasion on 4 but it has all been states side. you are right though it's hard to find anything on the internet of it. i looked there 1st but alas i had to just upload photos from my PC. incidently the 115 pics were downloaded from the net years ago but i couldn't even find those.

[=4c=Nikola]

Why does it even matter?

[gekoiq]

Why does it even matter?

 

Because ED is trying to *accurately* replicate a USN/USMC Hornet to the best of their ability?

[med-taha]

From VMFA-251

LITENING Mounted on station 2

The ATFLIR on station 4

[=4c=Nikola]

Because ED is trying to *accurately* replicate a USN/USMC Hornet to the best of their ability?

 

The fact usmc aircraft use one station on land ant other on ship, means that operationally there's probably little to no difference. Different masking area and asymmetric load.

 

That's how hard for players will be to adjust for different tgp positions. Non event.

[Wizard_03]

Guess I stand corrected! legitimately surprised by those images, need to have a look a stores loading manual. Never heard of it deployed like that. Although the first set is from an air show so not really reliable evidence, but the fact they have that adapter at all makes me wonder.

 

However the second set looks like a ferrying configuration, doubt the pod is functional on any of the wing stations.

[Czar66]

From my current wallpaper. This photograph is in public domain. VMFA-323.

 

 

You experts can analyze it further.

[Banzaiib]

The internals of the LITENING II pod aren't rated for carrier landings. What station it's mounted on is not the issue.

 

this is simply not true. 18's regularly land with the same impact force at an airfield as they do on a carrier. They do not carry LITENING pods on carrier deployments for financial and logistical reasons. That's it.

[SonofEil]

The internals of the LITENING II pod aren't rated for carrier landings. What station it's mounted on is not the issue.

 

Sorry, but you’ll have to provide a source for that statement because the actual USMC begs to differ. :)

From pg. 3:

https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a498288.pdf

“However, the Marine Corps should equip its carrier-based F/A-18s

with the LITENING AT instead of the ATFLIR because the LITENING

AT is equally capable, less costly, and more quickly available.”

Edited January 28, 2019 by SonofEil

[SkateZilla]

1. USMC Uses AN/AAQ-28 because the USMC Bought them cheaper per unit than the AN/ASQ-228. (They used them on AV-8B and EA-6B's).

 

2. They use AN/ASQ-228 when Deployed to the Fleet because that's what the USN Operates, and they use them so the Ship doesnt have to have both the AN/ASQ-228 and the AN/AAQ-28 on the ship plus parts.

 

3. Pictures of an Airshow Static Aircraft does not mean it was done operationally by the USMC.

 

I can Supply Pictures of CF-188's with Sniper Pods on Cheek and Wing Stations.

 

The Pod can be mounted to any Centerline or underwing station as well as the Cheek Station with the Newer Cheek Adapter.

 

Every pilot I've talked to about it said they 99% of the time fly with it on centerline, which allows for balanced loadouts and un-obstructed Forward and Lower FoV.

[Furia]

Only RAAF hornets can mount it there via a native pylon adapter afaik.

 

Not only RAAF :music_whistling:

Spanish F-18 can also carry them there and in the centerline as well

 

 

 

But as I have said I have also seen them in the centerline in the Spanish F/A-18

 

Edited January 29, 2019 by Furia

[M1Combat]

Skate...

 

 

 

Do me a favor.

 

 

Just ask ED to stop trying to put the Litening pod on the 18. Problem solved.

 

 

 

 

To everyone else...

 

 

 

Chill out. ED are simply trying to get us the ability to drop some self guided munitions before the ATFLIR is done and YOU'RE XXXXXING ABOUT IT.

 

 

STAHP!!!

[Furia]

Keep Calm and relax, :D

Post when you have some useful contribution to make to the topic. :music_whistling:

[Wizard_03]

Not only RAAF :music_whistling:

Spanish F-18 can also carry them there and in the centerline as well

 

 

 

But as I have said I have also seen them in the centerline in the Spanish F/A-18

 

 

 

Good to know! like I said I didn't know this was very common. I always thought that one of the main advantages of LITENING was the fact that it can be center mounted. Allowing for symmetric loadouts, but it seems like countries have the flexibility of both positions.

[SkateZilla]

An Official Answer from ED will come when its closer to release.

 

//Closed