Weta43 Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 I've been trying to improve my co-ordinated turns - 'stepping on the ball' -especially in the Su-25 & 25T. The trouble is I like to have the view with the HUD centered on the sceen & I don't keep the view very wide, which puts the 'slip indicator' off the bottom of the screen. I have TIR, I can look down, but I think a bit of string on the windshield would be a good learning aid. I know pilots of light aircraft fairly routinely tape a bit of string to the windshield as a slip indicator that is in their field of view, & I assume that a piece of wool on the front of a fast mover would last about 30 seconds, but it would probably stay there on the Frog/gratch & even if it would realy just blow off, it would be a good & credible learning aid for co-ordinating rudder with roll. It should be selectable like the mirrors (or that auxilliary artificial horizon), so those who didn't need it could turn it off. I think it would probably be pretty handy for BS when it comes out & as it's really just another display of an existing instrument, probably not too hard to code. Maybe something for a patch or the next project ? Cheers.
crusty1606687734 Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 ... I know pilots of light aircraft fairly routinely tape a bit of string to the windshield as a slip indicator that is in their field of view, & I assume that a piece of wool on the front of a fast mover would last about 30 seconds... These strings survived on a heavy fast mover like a ... early Tomcat. (not made out of wool though:)) - usefull during final parts of carrier approaches.
Force_Feedback Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 Can we have a pink G-string tied to the nose of a Ka-50? Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
JaNk0 Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 I don't get the whole string part in cockpit. Pictures ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
hitman Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 The idea of the string would be to have a slip indicator at head level instead of having to look down and lose your bearings.
Aeroscout Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 It's the same as a ball... if it's hanging strait as if your plane was level, then you have a coordinated turn. IRL, this should also result in no lateral G-forces during the majority of the turn. DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices
Laud Posted July 21, 2007 Posted July 21, 2007 I also remember some Tomcat pics with this indicator. If I remember right it was on the top side of the nose so the pilot could see it through his HUD. Or was it directly in front of the glass??? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming, Intel Core i7 9700k , 32gb Corsair DDR4-3200 Asus RTX 2070 super, Samsung 970 EVO Plus M2, Win10 64bit, Acer XZ321QU (WQHD) TM HOTAS Warthog, SAITEK Rudder Pedals, TIR 5
Weta43 Posted July 21, 2007 Author Posted July 21, 2007 JanKo - Being flexible & free to move, the string is always aligned with the airflow over the plane, so if the plane is 'slipping' - moving slightly sideways - the string will follow the airflow & run run up the canopy at an angle. You step on the rudder on the other side from the way the string has moved till it runs straight up the canopy & then the plane is going 'straight' through the air. I think it would be a handy learning aide - & I'd imagine it's pretty hard to keep the Ka-50 running straight without looking at a slip indicator somewhere in the field of view. (Laud - I've flown a few time is gliders & the string was right in front of your face) Cheers.
JaNk0 Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Aah thanks guys, now i get it :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Force_Feedback Posted July 22, 2007 Posted July 22, 2007 Some add ons in MSFS have this feature, pretty handy IMHO, on the other hand, you're not ferrying passengers in lomac, so comfort and coordinated turns are not that important. It's a good idea, as long as we can have both the string and a pit sans string. Would hanging a G-string over the pitot tube on the Su-25 be of any help? Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
Weta43 Posted July 23, 2007 Author Posted July 23, 2007 Depends who they belonged to - if they're yours I might pass this time :-) Cheers.
EagleEye Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 I was wondering about these strings on helos as I was watching a docu... I thought these strings are only useful on glider planes... Haven`t seen these before on other kind of aircrafts... Deutsche DCS-Flughandbücher SYSSpecs: i7-4790K @4GHz|GA-Z97X-SLI|16GB RAM|ASUS GTX1070|Win10 64bit|TrackIR5|TM Warthog/Saitek Pro Pedals
britgliderpilot Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 I was wondering about these strings on helos as I was watching a docu... I thought these strings are only useful on glider planes... Haven`t seen these before on other kind of aircrafts... Change "only" to "especially", and you've got it ;) It gives you a very quick, easy, and cheap visualisation of any yaw on the aircraft . . . which can be important in any aircraft. It's especially important in gliders because we want to be as efficient as possible - flying cockeyed is inefficient and will decrease our glide angle. Which is bad. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
EagleEye Posted July 24, 2007 Posted July 24, 2007 It's especially important in gliders because we want to be as efficient as possible - flying cockeyed is inefficient and will decrease our glide angle. Which is bad. I know...:) ...but Im still in training. Deutsche DCS-Flughandbücher SYSSpecs: i7-4790K @4GHz|GA-Z97X-SLI|16GB RAM|ASUS GTX1070|Win10 64bit|TrackIR5|TM Warthog/Saitek Pro Pedals
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