VMFA117_Poko Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Bear Foxtrot (Bear F) is a Tu-142 - naval version / antisubmarine Bear H - Tu-95MS - strategic bomber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 The Russian bombers eventually altered course to leave the Nato zone, being tracked by UK aircraft and the radar station at RAF Boulmer, Northumberland. The article in question is mentioning a Nato zone? I wonder, what is Nato zone? Is that part of a Nato country? If yes, then which country? Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA117_Poko Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 NATO zone IMHO is a terrain of a country wich belong to the organization + 12 nm off the coastline and a proximity of NATO vassels on the international waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Groove Posted September 7, 2007 ED Team Share Posted September 7, 2007 In this case it must be Norway and UK... Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VMFA117_Poko Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 In this case it must be Norway and UK... Or proximity of the place where is NATO navy excercise on international waters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit_Radar_Dude Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 The Russian bombers eventually altered course to leave the Nato zone, being tracked by UK aircraft and the radar station at RAF Boulmer, Northumberland. The article in question is mentioning a Nato zone? I wonder, what is Nato zone? Is that part of a Nato country? If yes, then which country? NATO countries (just like most other countries) operate what is called an ADIZ (Air Defense Identification Zone). This would typically stretch along a countries land borders or in the case of a sea border would stretch out over the sea. An aircraft that enter that zone or might enter that zone would be indentified and if a potential threat would be intercepted by a fighter. In the specific case of Russian Air Force Bears coming around the Norwegian coast and heading toward the UK, then Norwegian radars would be the first to detect them. If they enter the Norwegian ADIZ then RNoAF F-16's would likely perform an intercept and escort. Depending on the route the Bears flew, they may also be detected by Danish radar on the Faeroe Islands. That radar (I believe still a Type 91 - one of mine) reports into the UK Air Defense network. The Type 92 (early TPS-59/FPS-117) at RAF Buchan in Aberdeenshire would likely be next to detect the Bears. Both of those radars would feed into the CRC (Control and Reporting Centre) at RAF Boulmer. The RAF would attempt to intercept and escort the Bears at a range well outside UK territory. RAF fighters would be controlled during the intercept from Boulmer. Just as the aim of the Russian Air Force is to demonstrate that their Bears are capable of reaching the UK, the aim of the RAF would be to demonstrate the capability to intercept them well before they reach the UK. Until recently (2006 I think) there was still a radar stationed at RAF Saxa Vord on the northern tip of the Shetland Islands. Perhaps with the resumption of these Bear flights, the RAF might reconsider the closure of Saxa Vord. It was a most inhospitable place, I recall hearing of a severe storm that swept one radar clean over the the cliffs! I guess it was the RAF's equivalent of a US seviceman being sent to a weather station in Alaska. Interestingly RAF Buchan was the home for the TPS-43 captured from Argentina on the Falklands, known as Type 99 during its RAF service. 5 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Sorry Death, you lose! It was Professor Plum.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FWT Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 This isnt uncommon between countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Groove Posted September 7, 2007 ED Team Share Posted September 7, 2007 Thanks for the explenation Brit Radar Dude ! Rep inound ! Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A10FAN Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 I have a mission called Bear Hunt but i dont know where to upload it for download http://www.youtube.com/user/TheA10FAN?feature=mhum coolermaster HAF full tower Intell i7 960 bloomfield 4.0Ghz Evga X58 Classified 3 mobo Corsair H-60 Hydro Cooler Corsair Dominator GT 12g DDR3 1866 ram Corsair Pro Series AX1200w ps OCZ Vertex3 SSD 240g Evga GTX590 Vid Card Creative X-FI Titanium soundcard TM Warthog Hotas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tflash Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Very importanr for the Lockon context are also Russia's plans for some Naval Resurection! At Novorossyisk, a big Naval Base will be deployed. See e.g. EvilBovil's link to Bear Rising: http://bearrising.blogspot.com/2007/08/big-plans-for-russian-navy.html Warships magazine september 2007 also has the story. Really, classic Lockon with the Kutz etc. is still a game that enables very relevant scenario's!!!! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devurandom Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 Click on that link and you will see a different article title now. Obviously I was not the only one who noticed something was not right with that article. You are aware that stories are frequently edited and re-edited? Sounds to me like you've read too much into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted September 7, 2007 Share Posted September 7, 2007 You are aware that stories are frequently edited and re-edited? Sounds to me like you've read too much into it.I am aware of edits. This time the choice of words was so wrong that BBC completely replaced them and edited the whole article. Obviously I was not the only one “reading too much into it”. Regards, Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devurandom Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Oh I get it, you're one of those deluded nationalist types. My mistake for engaging you I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Oh I get it, you're one of those deluded nationalist ... :megalol: Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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