F14 Skinners thread (Paintkit in 1st post)

[ensamvarg]

I found another...

 

 

respectively the same spot on HB_F14_EXT_03 colors the opposite portions shown black on these images.

 

This is not so severe as technically you can paint everything as you wish, but still it seems wrong to work this way.

 

Thanks! Found that one when the initial ones were reported and will be fixed at the same time. :)

[LanceCriminal86]

@ensamvarg the UVWs around the tails as well, or just the wing root flipped textures? I'll keep my eyes out for more.

 

One thing I did notice is that typically, the ext 2 and ext 4 are the left side of the aircraft and have the text "normal", while 1 & 3 are "mirrored".

 

However, looking at the wing glove vane areas on the 3 and 4 textures, it seems like the lettering is the opposite. On 4, the wing glove area is backwards text, while on 3 it's regular.

[ensamvarg]

@ensamvarg the UVWs around the tails as well, or just the wing root flipped textures? I'll keep my eyes out for more.

 

One thing I did notice is that typically, the ext 2 and ext 4 are the left side of the aircraft and have the text "normal", while 1 & 3 are "mirrored".

 

However, looking at the wing glove vane areas on the 3 and 4 textures, it seems like the lettering is the opposite. On 4, the wing glove area is backwards text, while on 3 it's regular.

 

Unfortunately, the issues around the tail would require substantial reworking of the UV's. :(

Can't promise for sure that will/would be an easy and quick fix (if at all).

 

I've added this template which isn't perfect for every situation but I hope can help a little bit.

You can find it in the template repo here:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ICHqWDSY4626tnhPJUvKD6-11Yln1uh9?usp=sharing

 

It's in the Templates/F14B/Stripe folder.

 

Screenshots of the template attached to this post.

Edited June 1, 2020 by ensamvarg

[LanceCriminal86]

I appreciate it, I'll give it a whirl. Also just saw you had templates for the pilot suit and HGU-33 as well, I'm not sure if those were recent but I passed them over to the other skinners as well.

 

Also, is there any reason the RIO pilot body doesn't have a separate LUA callout? Is that something that can be done? Pilots and RIOs often had different patches and their wings are different as well. It would be appreciate for us detail nerds.

[ensamvarg]

I appreciate it, I'll give it a whirl. Also just saw you had templates for the pilot suit and HGU-33 as well, I'm not sure if those were recent but I passed them over to the other skinners as well.

 

Also, is there any reason the RIO pilot body doesn't have a separate LUA callout? Is that something that can be done? Pilots and RIOs often had different patches and their wings are different as well. It would be appreciate for us detail nerds.

 

They're pretty recent. I've started collecting them all in to more organized space where we can put any future updates. I noticed speed was sometimes an issue from the previous repository, especially for us on the U.S side of the server.

 

It will continue to grow as I update with more of these kind of templates should they be useful to people.

 

I'll put the RIO body on the list to investigate. We were able to do the helmet so it should be possible but won't know for sure until it's been given a proper look.

[Swordsman422]

I'm not particularly skilled yet. Due to some issues with CS4 I haven't solved yet, I can't use the paint kit. I'm currently modifying the existing Top Gun skin to represent 160694, the Top Gun camera bird, which can be readily identified by the replacement panel on the spine painted in FS16440.

 

If I ever release it, it'll be waiting for the A.

[Santus]

Thanks! Found that one when the initial ones were reported and will be fixed at the same time. :)

 

Am I right to assume that you have caught this one too dear Ensamvarg?

 

 

Could you perhaps share a rough estimate of the time required for these bugs to be squashed?

[prccowboy]

since we are talking about skin bugs, here is a very minor one:

the HB_F14_EXT_01 - VF-103 Hi Viz Livery - PUSH stencil is backwards (not mirrored), see attached picture (from paint kit file)

All other lettering is reversed (correct) but the PUSH lettering is normal (incorrect)

Edited June 6, 2020 by prccowboy

[ensamvarg]

Am I right to assume that you have caught this one too dear Ensamvarg?

 

 

Could you perhaps share a rough estimate of the time required for these bugs to be squashed?

 

Yep. Got that one too. I basically made each side have a single color and it showed all areas that use the other side for it's textures. :)

 

It's in our pipeline and we hope to have it fixed in the next patch but no promises.

[ensamvarg]

since we are talking about skin bugs, here is a very minor one:

the HB_F14_EXT_01 - VF-103 Hi Viz Livery - PUSH stencil is backwards (not mirrored), see attached picture (from paint kit file)

All other lettering is reversed (correct) but the PUSH lettering is normal (incorrect)

 

Thanks! This has been fixed and will be part of our next push.

[Santus]

Yep. Got that one too. I basically made each side have a single color and it showed all areas that use the other side for it's textures. :)

 

It's in our pipeline and we hope to have it fixed in the next patch but no promises.

 

Thank you Ensamvarg, Heatblur is a shining example in all aspects, I wouldn't expect anything less for the template.

 

I have another question. Is there a way via the description.lua to assign different HB_F14_EXT_PYLONS_01.dds to each pylon so I can paint them differently?

 

For example

HB_F14_EXT_PYLONS_01L.dds

HB_F14_EXT_PYLONS_01R.dds

[ensamvarg]

Thank you Ensamvarg, Heatblur is a shining example in all aspects, I wouldn't expect anything less for the template.

 

I have another question. Is there a way via the description.lua to assign different HB_F14_EXT_PYLONS_01.dds to each pylon so I can paint them differently?

 

For example

HB_F14_EXT_PYLONS_01L.dds

HB_F14_EXT_PYLONS_01R.dds

 

Unfortunately, this requires code changes and won't be as easy as other fixes. :(

[Santus]

Unfortunately, this requires code changes and won't be as easy as other fixes. :(

 

ok no problem, thank you for explaining.

[Southernbear]

Look, I don't have Photoshop and wouldn't be any good even if I did...But I'm BEGGING someone to do a VF-1 or VF-2 Camo for the F-14A! They're so cool and would be really handy if you wanted to do a Vietnam Mission in 1973-74 with F-14As!!!

[Blinde]

Those are both already made.

[ensamvarg]

Look, I don't have Photoshop and wouldn't be any good even if I did...But I'm BEGGING someone to do a VF-1 or VF-2 Camo for the F-14A! They're so cool and would be really handy if you wanted to do a Vietnam Mission in 1973-74 with F-14As!!!

 

Those are both already made.

 

Just to clarify for Southernbear. The ones currently available are made by the community. The official liveries will come as the A model launches and in the weeks following.

[Swordsman422]

Started working on this one for use with the Persian Gauntlet campaign. I've just now got the tails lined up, so still a long way to go. I'll try to cover the whole squadron for the time period, including the unusual markings for the CAG jet. Due to a lack of complete information, I won't be putting names on the canopy rails.

[USAFMTL]

Started working on this one for use with the Persian Gauntlet campaign. I've just now got the tails lined up, so still a long way to go. I'll try to cover the whole squadron for the time period, including the unusual markings for the CAG jet. Due to a lack of complete information, I won't be putting names on the canopy rails.

 

Hey brother, sent you a PM.

[Swordsman422]

Work continues. I was able to find the BuNos of 8 of VF-102's 14 aircraft from this period and will likely initially release with only these until I can find the remainder. While the aircraft generally look alike and use the same base textures, markings and TPS have slight variances between aircraft.

[ShinyMikey]

Those VF-102 skins look great, I've always wanted some low res diamondback skins to go with the high res default ones. Can't wait to get these, hope you release them soon.

[Jackjack171]

Great skins and thank you. Do you plan on changing the helmets to match the time period(HGU-55)?

[Jackjack171]

Work continues. I was able to find the BuNos of 8 of VF-102's 14 aircraft from this period and will likely initially release with only these until I can find the remainder. While the aircraft generally look alike and use the same base textures, markings and TPS have slight variances between aircraft.

And a hearty thank you for making an honest 'B' skin. With so many fantasy 'A' skins around, I was losing hope. These markings look like -102's time on the JFK.

[LanceCriminal86]

Great skins and thank you. Do you plan on changing the helmets to match the time period(HGU-55)?

 

Heatblur has stated they do intend to add the HGU-55/P helmet at some point. There's a few skins of the -33 that look alright as a -55 but better to just wait.

[Swordsman422]

Great skins and thank you. Do you plan on changing the helmets to match the time period(HGU-55)?

 

Currently the helmet textures are just placeholders until we get the HGU-55. After that, I'll knock up some period appropriate tape jobs for VF-102 and update the skin.

 

This skin pack is in testing currently but should be uploaded within the following week, after which I'll polish VF-102's OEF line jet livery to accompany the one included with the F-14B.

 

Thank you all for the kind comments.

[Swordsman422]

The VF-102 OEF livery will be following shortly after release of the 1999 skin pack. 9 jets in this one.