Ramsay Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 MSI = Multi-Sensor Integration AFAIK The radar track file and link-16 data, etc. are combined to ID/mark targets i.e. in RWS instead of contacts appearing as 'bricks', they inherit HAFU symbology from the SA page. i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
Santi871 Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 (edited) MSI = Multi-Sensor Integration AFAIK The radar track file and link-16 data, etc. are combined to ID/mark targets i.e. in RWS instead of contacts appearing as 'bricks', they inherit HAFU symbology from the SA page. This is how LTWS works already. MSI shows link16 tracks in the radar page (ie the SA page tracks) as well as the same RWR triangles you see on the SA page. See here for pictures. Edited March 28, 2019 by Santi871
kaoqumba Posted March 28, 2019 Author Posted March 28, 2019 This is how LTWS works already. MSI shows link16 tracks in the radar page (ie the SA page tracks) as well as the same RWR triangles you see on the SA page. See here for pictures. That is great! Thank you very much for your message.
kaoqumba Posted March 28, 2019 Author Posted March 28, 2019 MSI = Multi-Sensor Integration AFAIK The radar track file and link-16 data, etc. are combined to ID/mark targets i.e. in RWS instead of contacts appearing as 'bricks', they inherit HAFU symbology from the SA page. Thanks very much
Jak525 Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 This will be very cool. Gets you a better idea of the situation when you can see everything you see on the SA page on the radar, too
Mule Posted March 28, 2019 Posted March 28, 2019 I was going to ask the same question. Thanks. Fighter Pilot Podcast.
sk000tch Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 This is how LTWS works already. MSI shows link16 tracks in the radar page (ie the SA page tracks) as well as the same RWR triangles you see on the SA page. See here for pictures. Am I only one that gets an invalid thread error on this link? Curious as I was not aware DL tracks were showered on the radar page, much les RWR info. You’re talking about the display of link16 contacts on the apg-73 a/a attack pages? I.e. vs/rws/tws (assuming not stt)? Or the display or ownship radar tracks and link16 tracks on the SA page? just a dude who probably doesn't know what he's talking about
Santi871 Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 Am I only one that gets an invalid thread error on this link? Curious as I was not aware DL tracks were showered on the radar page, much les RWR info. You’re talking about the display of link16 contacts on the apg-73 a/a attack pages? I.e. vs/rws/tws (assuming not stt)? Or the display or ownship radar tracks and link16 tracks on the SA page? Apparently ED does not like diagrams made in powerpoint to get rule around 1.16 (beamscanner made them). Either way it's not too difficult to picture them in your head. The exact same symbology as the SA page is repeated in the radar display, and the RWR triangles that appear around the compass are instead shown on the top of the radar display's tactical area (ie where bricks and such appear), IIRC limited to the top 4 hostile RWR nails. I don't think link16 tracks would show in VS, and don't know about STT.
Beamscanner Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) VS is actually a sub-mode of RWS in the Hornet. And yes, MSI works in VS/RWS/TWS/STT MSI shows SURVL, PPLI, off-board F/F, RWR, HARM, and ATFLIR tracks. The ownship radar tracks, as seen currently on the SA page, are only shown via LTWS/TWS/STT logic Edited March 29, 2019 by Beamscanner
Santi871 Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 VS is actually a sub-mode of RWS in the Hornet. And yes, MSI works in VS/RWS/TWS/STT MSI shows SURVL, PPLI, off-board F/F, RWR, HARM, and ATFLIR tracks. The ownship radar tracks, as seen currently on the SA page, are only shown via LTWS/TWS/STT logic How would MSI show on VS when the vertical scale is on a closure rate scale rather than range?
Jak525 Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 VS is actually a sub-mode of RWS in the Hornet. And yes, MSI works in VS/RWS/TWS/STT MSI shows SURVL, PPLI, off-board F/F, RWR, HARM, and ATFLIR tracks. The ownship radar tracks, as seen currently on the SA page, are only shown via LTWS/TWS/STT logicNot true about VS actually. Per the manual it is its own top-level mode along with RWS and TWS.
Beamscanner Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) How would MSI show on VS when the vertical scale is on a closure rate scale rather than range? angle only tracks (ie, HARM, ATFLIR, RWR) MSI is not just LINK 16 Not true about VS actually. Per the manual it is its own top-level mode along with RWS and TWS. You're correct. Just looked back into the manual (A1-F18AC-742-100, chapter 14 page 5) I must had incorrectly read "VSRWS" (a submode of RWS) as Velocity Search RWS, but looking back its "vector scan range while search". Edited March 30, 2019 by Beamscanner
Jak525 Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 You're correct. Just looked back into the manual (A1-F18AC-742-100, chapter 14 page 5) I must had incorrectly read "VSRWS" (a submode of RWS) as Velocity Search RWS, but looking back its "vector scan range while search". Oh, never heard of that. Where'd you read about VSRWS?
sk000tch Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 Interesting, that's not how I understood it. I thought MSI/individual sensor info was aggregated on SA, not vice versa - e.g. attack radar and submodes displayed HARM, for example. Still can't fire on a SURV track from our lot right? the HAFU not show the upper chevron if you are not receiving returns? Also re rule 1.6, I was not aware. I could swear I have posted images, or at least quotes, from various tac manuals for proper HUD/HSI symbols but i am not banned? Will AZ/EL integrate data into that view where applicable? Like harm emitters with radar tracks? or atflir LST? just a dude who probably doesn't know what he's talking about
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Ramsay Posted May 14, 2019 Posted May 14, 2019 Pictures where? 1st page link is invalid. The post with the pictures was deleted. Although it didn't look to fall fowl of 1.16, presumably a moderator 'felt' they conveyed sensitive information or too much detail. i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
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