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What's *your* or the Navy's policy/tactics on dogfighting with PH missiles? Is it better to lob all of them from afar to clean up the aircraft or save 1 or 2 for dogfighting?

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if you have phoenixes, you better not get into a knifefight

if you get into a knifefight, you better not have any phoenixes

 

even palletized drag index is worse than externals

 

no idea what kind of capability you think the phoenix offers in close, but if you are greedy and think "oh maybe i will shoot someone 60 miles away after this dogfight" you are setting yourself up to fail

greed will get you killed every time

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They are remarkably useful when active off the rail in boresight mode, allowing you essentially to lob a live fire-and-forget grenade into a fight from a respectable while working on other problems. For example, if you're busy with one bandit but you see a wingman closing in, throw a Phoenix into their direction outside of IR range to either kill the enemy or force them into defensive, work on the initial bandit then assess your options.

 

 

That said, the minimum launch range is relatively high so if the fight gets too tight you might want to get rid of them in exchange for some angles.

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if you have phoenixes, you better not get into a knifefight

if you get into a knifefight, you better not have any phoenixes

 

even palletized drag index is worse than externals

 

no idea what kind of capability you think the phoenix offers in close, but if you are greedy and think "oh maybe i will shoot someone 60 miles away after this dogfight" you are setting yourself up to fail

greed will get you killed every time

 

WTF are you talking about? You carry way more weight in fuel than you do AIM-54's... they're not going to cripple you in a turn fight. You should use them to set up the turn fight to your advantage if they don't outright kill your opponent(s), by forcing them to make defensive maneuvers that you can take advantage of..., and if you don't fire all of them, who cares? So long as you win the fight...

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WTF are you talking about? You carry way more weight in fuel than you do AIM-54's... they're not going to cripple you in a turn fight. You should use them to set up the turn fight to your advantage if they don't outright kill your opponent(s), by forcing them to make defensive maneuvers that you can take advantage of..., and if you don't fire all of them, who cares? So long as you win the fight...

 

Well, I just had a dogfight with a Su-25 (AI) on GAW server, I had 3 PH, 2 Sparrows and 2 AIM-9, half fuel and no tanks. At 5k feet, with full AB I swear there was no way for me to keep up with the Su-25, he was running circles both horizontally and vertically around me. The Cat was as sluggish as a fulyl loaded A-10 and on a straight line the Su-25 was able to catch up with me as I was trying to gain some distance in full AB....

Provided DCS AI is as dumb and broken as a pile of rotten meat with worms inside, I am pretty sure the F-14 is a total hog in that configuration. Either that, or the FM has to be tuned.

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Well, I just had a dogfight with a Su-25 (AI) on GAW server, I had 3 PH, 2 Sparrows and 2 AIM-9, half fuel and no tanks. At 5k feet, with full AB I swear there was no way for me to keep up with the Su-25, he was running circles both horizontally and vertically around me. The Cat was as sluggish as a fulyl loaded A-10 and on a straight line the Su-25 was able to catch up with me as I was trying to gain some distance in full AB....

Provided DCS AI is as dumb and broken as a pile of rotten meat with worms inside, I am pretty sure the F-14 is a total hog in that configuration. Either that, or the FM has to be tuned.

 

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WTF are you talking about? You carry way more weight in fuel than you do AIM-54's... they're not going to cripple you in a turn fight. You should use them to set up the turn fight to your advantage if they don't outright kill your opponent(s), by forcing them to make defensive maneuvers that you can take advantage of..., and if you don't fire all of them, who cares? So long as you win the fight...

 

Do you arrive at a dogfight (which is the point of the OP, not BVR) with a full fuel load?

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