JDAM elevation issues in TOO mode

[sobe]

I have noticed that in TOO mode, when I change the elevation in the HSI way point data page to match the correct elevation, the elevation in the JDAM display page/MSN, does not always change to the correct height.

 

 

 

Is this me or a bug?

[EcceHomo]

No, there is no TAMMAC in the game. Digital Mapset appears in the game. TAMMAC contains three kinds of digital maps (CHRT, DTED, CIB), DTED provides coordinate elevation. The DIGITAL Mapset used in the game has only two-dimensional data.

 

It lags far behind the A-10C digital map.

[Harker]

As I understand it, TOO mode uses TGT data, not WP data. It just happens that right now, WPDSG is the only way we have to accurately designate a TGT in 3D space and thus, the TGT data is identical to the WP data.

 

Therefore, the TOO elevation should match the new WP elevation, but only if you hit WPDSG after you alter the WP data. Designating a TGT and altering the WP elevation afterwards shouldn't change the TOO TGT elevation, because the TGT data is already present from before. You'd need to undesignate and hit WPDSG again.

 

If the TOO elevation remains the same even after the above, then it'd seem that TOO is tied to the original WP data and not the TGT data and this is indeed a bug.

[Harker]

What?? So you're saying that we Will never have the so wanted DTED????

 

If that's the case im deleting the hornet tonight.

Hold your horses! The A-10C we have is has a 2007 avionics suite, with more advanced features. I'm not sure myself whether the Hornet has a similar system, but I do know that we'll be able to use the A/G radar (eventually) to get precise ranging information for out TGT points.

[Harker]

Our hornet DOES have the DTED, I wasnt asking that. I was asking if eccehomo is confirming that ED will not simulate it.

If our version of the Hornet has DTED as part of its avionics suite, I don't see why we won't get it. It already exists for the A-10C module, so there isn't an issue regarding info on the system or the difficulty to simulate it. But maybe EcceHomo knows something I don't.

[Harker]

Thats what I wanted to know before you told me to hold my horses. :)

I just wanted to prevent you from giving up on the Hornet. :) Hornet is love, Hornet is life.

[EcceHomo]

For now, there is no evidence of TAMMAC. Wihlist has a TAMMAC post. But nobody cares.

 

1. Chart (CHRT) mode provides a plan-view color map derived from Compressed ARC Digitized Raster Graphics (CADRG). This chart product replaces the Compressed Aeronautical Chart (CAC) map data currently used in the existing map (AN/ASQ-196).

2. Digital Terrain Elevation Data (DTED) mode provides a plan-view, panchromatic (gray scale),terrain plot with slope shading.

3. Controlled Image Base (CIB) mode provides a plan-view panchromatic image derived from a variety of mission planning, command, control, communications, and intelligence systems.

 

 

Before AFC 327, selecting the MODE option enables T UP (Track-up), N UP (true north up), DCTR (decenter), MAP, and slew options to be displayed on the left side of the HSI display. After AFC 327, selecting the MODE option enables T UP (Track-up), CHRT (chart), DCTR (decenter), and slew options to be displayed on the left side of the HSI display.

[Harker]

For now, there is no evidence of TAMMAC. Wihlist has a TAMMAC post. But nobody cares.

 

1. Chart (CHRT) mode provides a plan-view color map derived from Compressed ARC Digitized Raster Graphics (CADRG). This chart product replaces the Compressed Aeronautical Chart (CAC) map data currently used in the existing map (AN/ASQ-196).

2. Digital Terrain Elevation Data (DTED) mode provides a plan-view, panchromatic (gray scale),terrain plot with slope shading.

3. Controlled Image Base (CIB) mode provides a plan-view panchromatic image derived from a variety of mission planning, command, control, communications, and intelligence systems.

 

 

Before AFC 327, selecting the MODE option enables T UP (Track-up), N UP (true north up), DCTR (decenter), MAP, and slew options to be displayed on the left side of the HSI display. After AFC 327, selecting the MODE option enables T UP (Track-up), CHRT (chart), DCTR (decenter), and slew options to be displayed on the left side of the HSI display.

So according to the current layout of the HSI when pressing MODE, we're pre- AFC 327. Question is, is this correct for a Lot 20 Hornet?

[EcceHomo]

So according to the current layout of the HSI when pressing MODE, we're pre- AFC 327. Question is, is this correct for a Lot 20 Hornet?

 

This is right for the new lot20. But lot20 continues to upgrade, TAMMAC as an engineering upgrade before JHMCS. TAMMAC and VMF are two important upgrades for CAS tasks. Without them, hornets are no different from previous models (in CAS).

[NineLine]

So according to the current layout of the HSI when pressing MODE, we're pre- AFC 327. Question is, is this correct for a Lot 20 Hornet?

 

In this case, it is not a question of the LOT but rather the software OFP, 13C in this case, which is accurate. A LOT aircraft can have many OFPs over the years.

[Harker]

In this case, it is not a question of the LOT but rather the software OFP, 13C in this case, which is accurate. A LOT aircraft can have many OFPs over the years.

Indeed, makes sense. Thanks for clearing it up.

[Harker]

This is right for the new lot20. But lot20 continues to upgrade, TAMMAC as an engineering upgrade before JHMCS. TAMMAC and VMF are two important upgrades for CAS tasks. Without them, hornets are no different from previous models (in CAS).

I saw that TAMMAC was first introduced in Lot 23, together with JHMCS. But that's specific to this Lot. Lot 20s probably got software/capability upgrades from 98 to 2005. A quick search didn't tell me much about what we can expect with OFP 13C, though. I'd appreciate a link to a source, but better send it with a PM.

[NineLine]

Actually you said to some guy last year that you had to develop a rather mixed OFP with some things from 13c and some other thing from ofp 20.

 

Your statement (the one I wrote above) is clearly correct as the dcs hornet has many things from OFP 20 according to Natops.

 

 

So Nine Line, I guess what we want the most is you letting us know if DTED will or will not be simulated in dcs.

 

 

thanks.

 

The goal is OFP 13c, when we run into holes, we try and fill them elsewhere.

[NineLine]

Can't you see me over here avoiding that question??? :D

 

I honestly don't know. I'll bug Wags about it when I can, but he is off to the FSExpo this weekend with Thrustmaster.

[EcceHomo]

GBU-32 needs OFP 15C, while JSOW needs more later OFP.

[NineLine]

Yeah, must be one of those holes :)