Rudder Pedals recommendations

[memoric]

Hello

 

 

I plan to buy a set of new rudder pedals. So which one do you prefer and why?

I have a very flat flooring so it has to have some rubber or something similar underneath it so that it's not moving.

 

 

Thank you!

 

 

regards

[SGT Coyle]

I have a very flat flooring so it has to have some rubber or something similar underneath it so that it's not moving.

 

 

I don't know of a set that will sit perfectly on a slick floor, witch is what I think you were really getting at.

 

 

I like Thrust Master TPR. I have it and my WartHawg Stick monted to a 3/4" thick piece of OSB. Put some anti slip rug matting under it and it works like a dream.

 

 

 

https://www.amazon.com/Thrustmaster-TPR-Pedals-Windows-pc/dp/B07DQY8LVC/ref=sr_1_11?keywords=thrustmaster&qid=1559933085&s=electronics&sr=1-11

[Sokol1_br]

Aurelius

 

Good summary of rudder pedal for domestic use market. :thumbup:

 

An detail, after start work with VirPil Baur stop assembly their BRD pedals - now sell only some models in kit form,

but Russian market have priority and production are just sufficient for supply this market. In practical terms is no more option for western.

 

VirPil should release an pedal based in BRD design, probable around September.

 

MFG Crosswind still not having the combat footrest option, some guys are making in 3D print, CNC.

Edited June 8, 2019 by Sokol1_br

[AeroGator]

VKB T-Rudder - use Hall Effect contactless magnetic) that are all metal

Nope, T-Rudders use VKB's own MARS magnetic sensors that are in this particular case of application better than Halls.

Just a minor correction, no argument :)

[memoric]

Thank you all sugesting products, will look at it later!

 

 

Thanks

[Fri13]

Hello

 

 

I plan to buy a set of new rudder pedals. So which one do you prefer and why?

I have a very flat flooring so it has to have some rubber or something similar underneath it so that it's not moving.

 

 

Thank you!

 

 

regards

 

After two three different pedals from Thrustmaster, Logitech and Saitek, I got the VKB pedals. And they are simply the best ever used.

 

They huge difference is that you do not need to move at all your legs. You only use your toes to do a very accurate, fine movements and it is super accurate and easy. And bonus is that you don't need to move your legs straight, but you can even have the pedals almost front of your chair.

 

I wouldn't go to any other pedals anymore at all.

 

And who would say that "How about toe breaks?", you don't need those at all so often that one could think. And the VKB virtual toe breaks works then very very well.

 

No more any pedals that are requiring to move legs, that has physical toe breaks etc.

 

The real negativity in the VKB pedals is that they do look nothing like real pedals would be. But that is the benefit, as you are not in the real cockpit, you don't have the big force in pedals pushing back, you don't have the huge travel distances with the wire pullers etc.

[D0rmicum]

Had the Thrustmaster TFRP, Saitek and CH pro pedals. My Saitek didn‘t last long (were broken after one year), gave the Thrustmaster to a friend after a couple of month (didn‘t like the feeling although they were quite OK) and used the CH pro for many years without big problems but sound and overall feeling compared to the real ones were a big compromise.

Beginning of this year I invested quite some time in what to buy as „next gen pedals“ and in the finals I decided to go with the Slawdevice RX Viper instead of the Thrustmaster TRP pedals.

 

After one month of flying with the Slaws I have to say it was the best investment for flightsimulation I‘ve made (next to my Vive pro). They are just great and together with the optional damper a masterpiece of engineering! Love them. So if you can afford it and have time to wait for approx. 3 month, I‘d go with Slaws!

 

But overall it‘s always a matter of taste and what‘s great for me can be just average for someone else.

[BuzzU]

My history with pedals is:

 

CH pedals for quite a few years. Not great but serviceable.

 

VKB pedals. I didn't like them. No toe brakes and the motion is nothing like real pedals in a plane. Sold them right away.

 

TPR pedals. So far they are perfect. As long as I don't think about how much I paid for them.

[Wmacky]

Yeah, TPR's or Slaw's are my picks n the under $1000 price bracket......

[Quadg]

MFG crosswinds.

 

Mr Augustus is right, I just fell in love with them. :)

[PlainSight]

I'll wait for the Virpils Warbrd rudder pedals. A basic version, with only the rudder axis and no footplates adjustments, which should keep the price down.

Cos right now, we have cheap plastic models, which are positioned too close together and more expensive botique-manufactured models, with nothing in between.

 

I hope Virpil prices them at around 180-190 €, a sweet spot between low and higher price ranges. With tax, that's same price as the T-Rudder.

[Auger]

VKB T-Rudder Mark IV all the way.

 

Small profile, built to last a couple lifetimes, and very precise. Good rubber feet on the bottom, and since you don't swing them, they don't need a lot of room under the desk.

 

Haven't missed toe brakes, since I map that to a stick lever.

[BuzzU]

VKB T-Rudder Mark IV all the way.

 

Small profile, built to last a couple lifetimes, and very precise. Good rubber feet on the bottom, and since you don't swing them, they don't need a lot of room under the desk.

 

Haven't missed toe brakes, since I map that to a stick lever.

 

 

It depends on what planes you fly. Modern jets only need a basic brake button. Warbirds are much easier to taxi with toe brakes. Which means the P-51 in my case. An on-off button for each brake doesn't work that well and kills immersion for me.

[Sokol1_br]

Warbirds are much easier to taxi with toe brakes. Which means the P-51 in my case. An on-off button for each brake doesn't work that well and kills immersion for me.

 

Much easy, yes. Difficult or impossible, not.

 

I taxi P-51, Bf 109, Fw-190 in the same way I taxi Spitfire - is not more difficult, neither more easy; using T-Rudder "differential brakes" emulation, that is not a on-off button, but a progressive axis, is just not relative, can't stop and hold the application in e.g. 50%, when reach 100% is need release an apply again. Matter of get used with the system.

 

Since taxi difficult will represent more than 5% of in game time, is (IMHO) a very secondary thing.

 

"Immersion"... Fly a Spitfire, Yak-1, IL-2... without a joystick with brake lever (VKB MCG, VPC T50...) will not kill the immersion in the same way? ;)

 

But that pedals (T-Rudder) is for very specific kind of player, that don't care about "real thing" visuals or if mimic a given plane operation, but just want precise rudder control in a durable pedal at reasonable cost. :thumbup:

 

T-Rudder major plus is offer the similar construction techniques and materials, electronics and sensor of "high end" models, but costing less.

 

Comparing EU prices they cost less €121 than the next (price) option - MFG Crosswinds.

 

Anyway OP have many options of pedals with "toes brakes", in low and high cost, just not in middle cost. :D

 

Buying a MFG, Tm TPR, Slaw or VPC (when available), difficult will be need think in buy rudder pedasl again in their simmer life, what generally happens with people that buy low cost options.

In the end, the major factor in the decision is money.

[Hellcat]

VKB T-Rudder Mark IV all the way.

 

Small profile, built to last a couple lifetimes, and very precise. Good rubber feet on the bottom, and since you don't swing them, they don't need a lot of room under the desk.

 

Haven't missed toe brakes, since I map that to a stick lever.

 

:thumbup:

 

 

 

I use VKB T-Rudder Mark IV and love em' Best in my opinion at their respective price point.

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Edited June 10, 2019 by Hellcat

[Rick50]

I Can't afford the more expensive options.

 

But... will the Thrustmaster TFRP Pedals (the cheap one, not the expensive TM rudders) have good enough toe brakes to taxi a warbird taildragger ? Or is that a lost cause?

 

Or be good enough to fly a heli decently?

[Sokol1_br]

TFRP "toe brakes" will work OK, but the rudder probable being subject to stiction, due the "S.M.A.R.T" rails, by prepared to buy Nyogel 767A. :D

 

Of the "entry-level" options (up to ~$170) think that the less "risk" is CH PRO Pedals ($120), their pot's are more durable than Thrustmaster and Saitek models.

Edited June 18, 2019 by Sokol1_br

[streakeagle]

My Saitek pedals were bought so many years ago for $100 along with the then brand new X-52 Pro for $100. Both are still usable. The only degradation on the stick was the twist-stick rudder pot got dirty/noisy after a year or two without use when I gave the stick to my son. The pedals I have used up until last Friday, when my TPR pedals arrived.

 

The Slaw pedals are easily the best available, but the TPR was more appealing to me.

1) The mechanics of the TPR are closest to the way the rudder pedals work on an F-4 Phantom, which I am trying to replicate with my sim pit.

2) The TPR pedals are readily available (no protracted wait to get your order filled) and if they are supported as well as my Warthog HOTAS has been, I will be able to get key parts and keep them 100% serviceable for a very long time.

 

When I removed my Saitek pedals to install the TPR pedals, I learned that at some point the springs on the toe-brakes gave out. Gravity tends to make them go back to the 0% travel position, particularly when you have your feet resting on them, but they had lost their spring back to zero action. But this must have happened somewhat recently, as I have periodically moved everything around for cleaning and I don't remember the pedals being loose.

 

I realize many people, if not most people, didn't have the long term success with the Saitek pedals that I did. But the relatively wide spacing and longevity served me very well and I had no trouble flying DCS World helicopters with them. The TPR pedals feel a lot sturdier, but they better be given the price difference.

 

If I ever get caught up on other things, I may end up getting a set of Slaw pedals just to try them out and decide which ones I like better. But as long as these new TPR pedals work as well as they are right now, I don't think that will be anytime soon.

Edited June 18, 2019 by streakeagle

[wilbur81]

My Saitek Combat Pro pedals have been wonderful... going on 5 years of use. Love the

F-16ish look and love the wide spacing. Logitech doesn't make them any more, alas.