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Can anyone confirm this? I just checked, and my lighting does turn off now when I shut down the computer, but it does not remember the led levels. Neither the throttle or the panel? IS there something you have do do to save this setting?

Or - You could quit whining that you can't but the throttle alone? Really, just buy it and then sell the stick you like least like I did or move along. Quit being cheap. All this begging is getting old. I think they got the message after the thousandth request.

Found the Winwing throttle and stick too be fantastic! Kept both and sold off my Virpil throttle, and stick combo.Happy to have top level gear. Not a fan of plastic grips.

True that! But. it will always be a compromise in that regard. You have to pick for your favorite jet, and just make the others "work" as well as possible. Thank goodness my pick is the FA18

I sold my Gen 1 Virpil after hearing about the detent failures, and didn't like the constant changes making a 2 month old throttle instantly obsolete. I also wasn't to thrilled with the plastic parts in the Warhog. I had to grind my teeth and go with the more expensive Winwing. 100% realism, detents and all!

None planned. Other then the HOTAS, all in game control will be through point control until full hand recognition is perfected for control.

Flight / Racing VR motion cockpit finally complete after 1.5 years of weekend Piddling!

Give the stick a try! I did, and really like it. As a matter of fact, I'm selling all my Virpil gear. After using the WW stick, the virpil stick feels kinda cheap. No disrespect, but maybe if they used resin like the real stick it would be ok, but it feels like toy plastic, where the WW stick feels solid in the hand. To me, the throttle AND flight stick are a matching set with matching quality. I'm glad that Wing wing is making top gear for those who want it. There is plenty of cheaper gear for those that don't want to spent what is necessary for this level of quality .

I don't want to wear a bulky glove. I want a souped up Point Control. How about tracked bare hands in 3d space with just a slim finger tip slip on that offers some type of tactile as you grasp a switch! This should be Miles next obsession :-)

I prefer the construction of the Slaws

And those profiles are appreciated! I've download them, and will start exploring them this weekend!

Yeah, that egg wouldn't cut it for me. My Winwing HOTAS or Simcube would never mount up to that. It looks flimsy. My SFX could throw a 500lb man across the room.

I see you perspective, however, several builders have found it very worth while for use with DCS. Yes racing is the mainstay for these vertical actuator systems, but this system has quite a bit of travel for this type of platform. Using VR, the provided motion cues seem to do a fine job. A lot of movement can be too much. As you know, Being turned 90 degrees, or upside down does not feel right without real g forces holding you in. Here's an example of the travel: I think this is enough for good motion cues when using VR. No, it's not Ideal, but it doesn't cost $50,000 either. I feels fortunate that it was offered to the public. For those that like racing too. This is a top of the line motion sim, with a DCS plugin as a bonus. Whats not to love? IF you hate racing, and already have a mega expensive 6dof motion sim, then I could understand the lack of interest. It really comes down to this. Is the extra immersion it offers ( even if not Ideal) worth some spare time, and $1700. I say absolutely. Others may say no. I'm not rich, but in the grand scheme. $1700 is not that much to me.

The cost ( for the motion part only) was around $1700. similar D- box motion systems cost around $20,000 or more. A couple weekends time could built it.

I've had good dealing with them too, But my biggest issue is: Why are they currently ignoring Pimax users? They refuse to offer any options?

I'm very surprised. I see a lot of funds being spent on High end HOTAS (Me too!) and hyper detailed 1:1 cockpits, as well a VR setups. However, the subject of motion is almost non existent? In the past, it was understandable, as the costs were through the roof at 5 figures or more, Or DIY options with very little support / information, and thousands in machining/ shop tools needed. But, this is no longer the case. A couple years ago, a German fellow designed, both the hardware, and software for a low priced system, and he released it to the general public. The project comes complete with instructions, shopping lists, videos, and a huge knowledge base of builders now over 200. The only major tool needed is a cheap 3D printer. Though this was conceived as a racing simulator, plugins can be added by users for any sim with telemetry. A forum member here worked on and released a plugin for DCS, Others are working various profiles for the various aircraft. Another is working on a FA/18 specific plugin with incredible results. A thread over on Race,dept was started, and it took off with hundreds of builders jumping in. But, where the heck are the DCS guys? This system, SFX-100, has been mentioned here several times with no interest. Only a handful of guys here have built one. I don't get it. I know there are dedicated simmers here willing to go all out for immersion, but have can you have full immersion without motion? I truly hope more people here will jump in. That would generate more interest in plugin development, and would make it more fun having a community involved. Here a FAQ page https://opensfx.com/ Race forum mega thread https://www.racedepartment.com/threads/the-simfeedback-ac-diy-motion-simulator-thread.159524/ My cockpit. I'm almost finished with mine. It's a convertible pit that quickly switches between racing, and flight. This is a older pick from last month.

I pretty sure all shipping in China ceased a few days ago. I'm afraid you looking at early February....... It's worth the wait. IMHO no other HOTAS can touch it. It's a shame it was the early model that got reviewed. The final product is fabulous, even with a few minor issues. Every HOTAS has a few minor issues. Some worse than that.

I have a Reverb too, but this is not what I'm seeing as far as reviews. The 8KX seems to check almost every single box. Clarity, rez, comfort, FOV, colors, black levels, sweet spot , God rays, RGB, IPD Etc.

I'm kinda out of the loop. What happened with that big promised VR improvement of a few months ago. I know it was released and didn't work for several people, and ED was researching why. Then the topic kinda faded. So what happened after that?

Can't wait for mine. Who needs a 5K+ with Vive audio strap?

Yeah, I saw those too, and was concerned, until it arrived. Seem fine to me, but I don't have the TM to compare.

Have you compared both? My understanding is that the difference is very small? Anyway, I have smaller hands and it fits me great. Any bigger, and my thumb would have trouble reaching the buttons.

A couple thoughts about mine: Yeah the mounts should be considered a temporary solution, while waiting for better, or cockpit mounting. I can't imagine someone purchasing such fine equipment and seriously planning to permanently use those mounts. So for me they're not a issue! Joystick - For those not wanting the Joystick. I also have a Virpil setup, though I'm not as heavily invested as RogueSqdn is. I thought I'd try both then decide. Well for me WinWing won out. I pretty much knew this as soon as I felt the the grip in hand. It feels very substantial, and of similar quality as the Throttle. I really like the feel, and the buttons / switches. IMO the Virpil grip just can't compare. It's the difference between feeling real, and not real. I've not really been able to put it through it's paces as my motion cockpit is still under construction, but I really feel I'll like the Grip, and the base as much as the heavenly throttle. Now for those already deeply invested with several switchable grips, I can understand. But for me, I just wanted to stay with 1 ecosystem, and so far I like what I see. Looks LIke I'm be selling the Virpil t-50/CM

Now that Winwing is released, can we get a dedicated sub forum like the other companies have?

Yeah, I didn't think they had until the last few posts.