majapahit Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 FA-18C radar beam should pitch up and down with the plane? what seems wrong? What seems wrong? FA-18C be level (@15k Alt) have a 'bogey' (tanker) in middle of radar screen (at f.i. 45 mls @15k Alt) Radar Elevation Control set properly (f.i. 13-25k Alt) (tanker) blip shows in middle of radar screen & can be inquired/targeted un-select target descent, level out (to f.i. 10K Alt) Radar Elevation Control slew cursor still shows same numbers (13-25k Alt) (tanker) blip shows in middle of radar screen & can be inquired/targeted Pitch up f.i. 30° Radar Elevation Control slew cursor still shows same numbers (13-25k Alt) (tanker) blip shows in middle of radar screen & can be inquired/targeted Pitch down f.i. 30° Radar Elevation Control slew cursor still shows same numbers (13-25k Alt) (tanker) blip shows in middle of radar screen & can be inquired/targeted This seems wrong / a feature / wizardry / I missed a mentioning about this? I had a conversation with another DCS member about the radar possibly gimballed and have a gyro attached. That still does not make sense. Because of the ‘radar cake slice’ explanation that rules the Radar Elevation Control & if the radar is not gimballed with a gyro (which seems likely), then, for instance, when at level flight with an unseen bogey above radar beam elevation, the bogey should show up when pitching up and have the radar beam pointed at it. Or what feature am I missing here? | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen |
Ramsay Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 Or what feature am I missing here? The radar is ground and horizon stabilised within the physical slew limits of the radar 'dish'. i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
kengou Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 The radar gimbal is gyro stabilized so it points in the same elevation relative to the plane regardless of maneuvering, to better track targets. This is intended design. Virpil WarBRD | Thrustmaster Hornet Grip | Foxx Mount | Thrustmaster TWCS Throttle | Logitech G Throttle Quadrant | VKB T-Rudder IV | TrackIR 5 AMD Ryzen 5 3600 | Nvidia GTX 1060 6GB | 32GB DDR4 3200 | SSD
probad Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 when in aacq modes like boresight/vertical scan the radar will bind itself to aircraft orientation like you imagine. for long range searches even the difference of a tenth of a degree of elevation can result in huge elevation changes in the search box so stabilization is absolutely necessary.
majapahit Posted June 27, 2019 Author Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) OK, gents I am thoroughly impressed thx Edited June 27, 2019 by majapahit | VR goggles | Autopilot panel | Headtracker | TM HOTAS | G920 HOTAS | MS FFB 2 | Throttle Quadrants | 8600K | GTX 1080 | 64GB RAM| Win 10 x64 | Voicerecognition | 50" UHD TV monitor | 40" 1080p TV monitor | 2x 24" 1080p side monitors | 24" 1080p touchscreen |
Demongornot Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) Older radar probably did not keep horizontal level (I think it is the case for the Mig-21 and it is simulated in DCS (see edit bellow)), but moderns do, and they have a surprisingly high gimbal range : Tomcat : And more modern radars have fixed antenna and use complex electromagnetic technology to orient the radar beam but we don't have those in DCS anyway. Edit : I was wrong about the Mig-21, at least the variant in DCS, its radar keep horizon level, maybe older versions didn't, details here : https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=204207 I made the mistake because I remember a while back during the Mig-21 development a video (long gone) where the radar scanning area debug was visible, like this http://www.key.aero/central/images/gallery/6003.jpg and it was lock to the aircraft attitude. Edited June 27, 2019 by Demongornot More of those sweet pictures :D Edit 2 : I was wrong ^^" CPU : I7 6700k, MB : MSI Z170A GAMING M3, GC : EVGA GTX 1080ti SC2 GAMING iCX, RAM : DDR4 HyperX Fury 4 x 8 Go 2666 MHz CAS 15, STORAGE : Windows 10 on SSD, games on HDDs. Hardware used for DCS : Pro, Saitek pro flight rudder, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, Oculus Rift. Own : A-10C, Black Shark (BS1 to BS2), P-51D, FC3, UH-1H, Combined Arms, Mi-8MTV2, AV-8B, M-2000C, F/A-18C, Hawk T.1A Want : F-14 Tomcat, Yak-52, AJS-37, Spitfire LF Mk. IX, F-5E, MiG-21Bis, F-86F, MAC, F-16C, F-15E.
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