P3CFE Posted July 22, 2019 Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) When there is a crosswind, and the plane is flying without sideslip, exhaust smoke is very wrongfully :mad:leaving the engine in an angle. I don't know anything about programming ..and why it is this hard to correct or even give a reply on this. It is mentioned several time during the years. I love this sim.. and so much is perfectly simulated ..a peace of Art in my opinion :thumbup: Buttttt !! the smoke behaviour is completely wrong !! Even gives be a doubt about the rest of the Aerodynamic calculations in the game..Sorry !. Please DeV's ..Reply on this. It is such a shame !!:cry: The picture is me flying the beautiful Harrier...Note: I am flying without side slip. So the air is streaming from nose to tail in a straight line, (please agree on this !!)…. So why is the smoke not following the flow of Air ??. Thread Name is not objective and Clear..Sorry . It should be "Smoke not Following Airstream" hope it kan be corrected. Edited July 22, 2019 by P3CFE Excuses About the thread name.
bkthunder Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 This is a general DCS problem. You should post it on the main DCS forum, however, I did post it many years ago (maybe still Flaming Cliffs times) and it hasn't been taken into consideration to this day. On the other hand, they did correct the contrails, which were affected by the same issue until maybe a couple of years ago, so I think this should be fairly easy to fix. Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s
P3CFE Posted July 23, 2019 Author Posted July 23, 2019 Thanks for the answer bkthunder.. I did place this bugreport in DCS World 2.5, but someone moved the thread to Razbam AV-8B N/A. I know it is not an module related issue , but a fault in DCS..!! Somehow I can not get this gripe under the attention of the right person... Thanks..
P3CFE Posted July 23, 2019 Author Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) Exhaust Smoke not Following Airstream When there is a crosswind, and flying without sideslip, exhaust smoke is very wrongfully leaving the engine in an angle. I don't know anything about programming ..and why it is this hard to correct or even give a reply on this. It is mentioned several time during the years. I love this sim.. and so much is perfectly simulated ..a peace of Art in my opinion Buttttt !! the smoke behavior is completely wrong !! Even gives me a doubt about the rest of the Aerodynamic calculations in the game..Sorry !. Please Dev.'s ..Reply on this. It is such a shame !! The picture, is me flying the beautiful Harrier.. Note: It is the same with every other Module ! I am flying without side slip. So the air is streaming from nose to tail in a straight line, (please agree on this !!)…. So why is the smoke not following the flow of Air ??. Thanks for any reply..already. https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=214133&d=1563804447Smoke angle.trk Edited July 23, 2019 by P3CFE Link to picture added
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 23, 2019 ED Team Posted July 23, 2019 Hi I have merged the threads, As far as I am aware the smoke following the air / wash is not modelled yet in DCS, this may change in the future as features like wake turbulence are being added. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
P3CFE Posted July 23, 2019 Author Posted July 23, 2019 Thanks BIGNEWY, I was simultaneously editing to get the picture in the thread. hope I did'n, t mess up to much ..
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 23, 2019 ED Team Posted July 23, 2019 Thanks BIGNEWY, I was simultaneously editing to get the picture in the thread. hope I did'n, t mess up to much .. No do not worry :) Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
bkthunder Posted July 23, 2019 Posted July 23, 2019 Hi I have merged the threads, As far as I am aware the smoke following the air / wash is not modelled yet in DCS, this may change in the future as features like wake turbulence are being added. The contrails are already showing the correct behavior. We are not asking to have the smoke follow the airflow / jetwash dynamically (that would require fluid dynamic calculations), but simply make the black jet smoke behave in the same way as white contrails ;) Windows 10 - Intel i7 7700K 4.2 Ghz (no OC) - Asus Strix GTX 1080 8Gb - 16GB DDR4 (3000 MHz) - SSD 500GB + WD Black FZEX 1TB 6Gb/s
P3CFE Posted July 23, 2019 Author Posted July 23, 2019 Completely agree with bkthunder.. The smoke should follow the same rule as the contrail with respect to direction it leaves the aircraft. If the contrails leave the exhaust in the correct angle at this moment, it seems an easy correction to make for the smoke. But if i'm wrong here, I would be glad to hear an explanation of the programmers or other experts. Regards..
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 23, 2019 ED Team Posted July 23, 2019 I did say " as far as I am aware " :) I will try and find out. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
P3CFE Posted July 23, 2019 Author Posted July 23, 2019 That would really be great, I know there are bigger problems in Life.:music_whistling: But this comes in second...:D Thanks again !
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted July 23, 2019 ED Team Posted July 23, 2019 if you have time please attach a short track replay showing this behaviour. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
P3CFE Posted July 23, 2019 Author Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) At your command :thumbup: attached it to "Exhaust Smoke not Following Airstream" thread. hope that will work. Note: I had a real lot of crosswind put in .. I think a hundred knots or so. just to make it more visual... Edited July 23, 2019 by P3CFE Extra info
P3CFE Posted August 1, 2019 Author Posted August 1, 2019 Any Feedback on this ? Has any Expert given his opinion and some information about how this is gonna be handled. Very curious !!
P3CFE Posted August 13, 2019 Author Posted August 13, 2019 Is there any extra information needed on this Gripe ? It remains so quiet !! Or is it discarded as "no value" to the DCS flight Simulator realism ?
P3CFE Posted September 6, 2019 Author Posted September 6, 2019 don't be ashamed.. Just tell the truth :music_whistling:
P3CFE Posted October 8, 2019 Author Posted October 8, 2019 And to communicate any word about it for 300 years now..
P3CFE Posted October 8, 2019 Author Posted October 8, 2019 2016 I mentioned it already...No reply from the Dev'S
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 22, 2019 ED Team Posted October 22, 2019 Hi, thanks for the PM, A feature request has been made, it is low priority currently and I can not say if or when this will change. But it is in our system for dev consideration. Thanks. Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
P3CFE Posted October 23, 2019 Author Posted October 23, 2019 Oke, Thanks. So, I can take it as an acknowledged "deviation from reality" in DCS from the DEV's, that was my main question, thanks again for clearing that up. I Hope it is going to be marked as "Reported" then, that is a great way of ending the discussion :D I can totally understand it is a low priority at the moment ..with al the development going on. But the line part "If or when it wil change" gives me a doubt. What I would totally not understand is that the dev's may be deciding to not correct this, when there is time for it (maybe that could be explained by somebody then). But okay, there is so much you can do, and so much I can do so it seems. All for an, even more, realistic simulator :thumbup: Greetz
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