Franktank Posted August 18, 2019 Posted August 18, 2019 So when sitting on the tarmac the flight stick will move all on its own. No power on the airplane. Not a big deal. But while in flight when I trim the stick moves then immediately tries to spring back to center. I turn on the little red flight stick/control indicator and it shows the trim moving and the stick just bouncing right back instead of stayin place. Then when I pitch up or down the elevator will first go in the direction of the trim, and with more input then it starts to do what I’m telling it to do. VERY STRANGE. I had a Logitech 3D pro when this first started happening so I thought well this a great excuse to get a new joystick. So now I have the TM T16000 HOTAS and it’s doing the same exact thing! Please help!!!!
bbrz Posted August 18, 2019 Posted August 18, 2019 Game mode enabled? i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070
Franktank Posted August 18, 2019 Author Posted August 18, 2019 I don’t think so. To enable simulation mode u just go to the settings and click simulation right? Where it says game/simulation?
Franktank Posted August 18, 2019 Author Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) Another very strange thing is I just went back to basic training section and everything is normal! It’s only in the campaigns and mission modes that the flight controls are doing all this weird stuff!! The controls are very jumpy/sticky. when I do apply trim the in game yoke just bounces right back to center. when I roll or pitch the airplane, the initial movement of the stick is not registered, then it will jump 5 degrees or so to the direction im inputting. Edited August 18, 2019 by Franktank
hornblower793 Posted August 18, 2019 Posted August 18, 2019 double-mapping of some controls? Windows 11 Home ¦ Z790 AORUS Elite AX motherboard ¦ i7-13700K ¦ 64GB Corsair Vengeance DDR5 memory @ 5600MHz ¦ Samsung 990 Pro 1TB SSD for OS, Samsung 980 Pro 2TB SSD for DCS ¦ MSI GeForce RTX 4090 Gaming X Trio 24GB ¦ Virpil WarBRD base with VFX grip, Thrustmaster A10c and F/A-18 grips ¦ VKB Gunfighter Mk4 and MCG Pro ¦ Thrustmaster Warthog Throttle ¦ VKB STECS Throttle ¦ Virpil TCS rotor base with Shark and AH-64D grips ¦ MFG Crosswinds ¦ Total Controls Multi-Function Button Box ¦ Pimax Crystal
Franktank Posted August 18, 2019 Author Posted August 18, 2019 (edited) negative. i deleted all mapped controls. including the keyboard, mouse and joystick. both on the simulation and game drop downs. no fix. even if this was the issue why would it still work fine in the training module and not in the missions? total head scratcher. i even tried deleting the .LUA files thinking maybe my old joystick caused the original problem somehow and dcs was maybe hanging on to it. I dont know. but nothing still the same problem. Edited August 18, 2019 by Franktank
sparkchaser2010 Posted August 19, 2019 Posted August 19, 2019 Is auto trim enabled? I tried it out and experienced the same issue. ASUS TUF GAMING X670E with AMD RYZEN 5 7600X, 64GB DDR4, ASUS TUF GAMING 4080 Pico 4, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS Formally Known As: wpnssgt (google it )
SmirkingGerbil Posted August 19, 2019 Posted August 19, 2019 Which Campaigns? Which Missions? Could be that you have TO Trim mapped, and a trigger in the game is centering all your controls for take-off. EAC enabled/disabled with Gun armed will also change pitch, and move your stick. Might want to check the triggers in the Mission/Campaign, or if you have double mapped TO Trim button, or EAC/LASTE buttons. All of these will cause the stick to move to change the attitude of the aircraft for take off or arming of the GAU. Pointy end hurt! Fire burn!! JTF-191 25th Draggins - Hawg Main. Black Shark 2, A10C, A10CII, F-16, F/A-18, F-86, Mig-15, Mig-19, Mig-21, P-51, F-15, Su-27, Su-33, Mig-29, FW-190 Dora, Anton, BF 109, Mossie, Normandy, Caucasus, NTTR, Persian Gulf, Channel, Syria, Marianas, WWII Assets, CA. (WWII backer picked aircraft ME-262, P-47D).
Franktank Posted August 19, 2019 Author Posted August 19, 2019 There’s an auto trim option?? Where is that located?? Thx guys I will check all of these ASAP
Yurgon Posted August 19, 2019 Posted August 19, 2019 So when sitting on the tarmac the flight stick will move all on its own. I think that's quite normal, at least in DCS. When I see that, the stick slowly alternates between fully forward and fully aft, but won't go sideways. Is that what you're seeing? I'm not sure if this is realistic, but it's been like this for a long time. It will stop as soon as the first engine starts and hydraulic power comes up. But while in flight when I trim the stick moves then immediately tries to spring back to center. Check the game's options for "Force Feedback". If you don't have a Force Feedback Joystick (pretty sure the T16000 isn't FFB), but the box is checked, trim in the A-10C will be foobar. I think that's the most common cause for trim not working.
Franktank Posted August 19, 2019 Author Posted August 19, 2019 WOW!!! I feel like a moron!!! The auto trim was indeed selected. Unchecked it. Ops check good!!! Thanks for everyone’s help!!
Snoopy Posted August 19, 2019 Posted August 19, 2019 I think that's quite normal, at least in DCS. When I see that, the stick slowly alternates between fully forward and fully aft, but won't go sideways. Is that what you're seeing? I'm not sure if this is realistic, but it's been like this for a long time. It will stop as soon as the first engine starts and hydraulic power comes up. . Not a bug but the wind blowing the elevators up and down, happens on the real jet. v303d Fighter Group Discord | Virtual 303d Fighter Group Website
Yurgon Posted August 19, 2019 Posted August 19, 2019 Not a bug but the wind blowing the elevators up and down, happens on the real jet. Wow, that is some awesome attention to detail. Good to know, thanks!
bbrz Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 Not a bug but the wind blowing the elevators up and down, happens on the real jet. Interesting. In more than 40 years I've never seen hydraulically powered elevators to be moved by the wind IRL. i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070
Snakedoc Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 Interesting. In more than 40 years I've never seen hydraulically powered elevators to be moved by the wind IRL. happens pretty much to any airplane when the hydraulics are not powered and in presence of strong winds. Also happens on airliners like the 737NG (which I fly IRL) ASUS ROG STRIX Z490 F-GAMING | i7-10700K | RTX3090 TUF OC | 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz | Windows 10 64bit | Acer Predator X34P | TrackIR 5 | TM Warthog | TM T.Flight Rudder Pedals A-10C | A-10C II | F/A-18C | F-16C | FC3 | PG | Syria | SC Home made F-16C simulator Forum Thread: DCS World forum - The Viper Project - Home Cockpits Instagram: The Viper Project YouTube The Viper Project - Youtube channel
bbrz Posted August 23, 2019 Posted August 23, 2019 happens pretty much to any airplane when the hydraulics are not powered and in presence of strong winds. Also happens on airliners like the 737NG (which I fly IRL) Funny, I never noticed this on the A320, 767 etc I used to fly IRL. Rudder yes, but elevator, never. i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070
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