ASW Can't Be Turned Off!!!

[mytai01]

Just when I thought things were OK with Windows 10, now we can't turn ASW off with the Alt+KP1 keys anymore. This happened with the 9/04/2019 Beta Update. Anyone else notice this?

[dburne]

It is CTRL+ Numpad 1.

I have seen others report they have problems with it though, not sure how widespread it is.

 

I use the Oculus Tray Tool with a profile set for DCS.exe and it turns off every time for me without problem.

[Nightstorm]

You can also use the Oculus Debug Tool that's installed natively with the software, actually, that's what the Tray tool changes, or at least its reflected there as well. I like to bring that tool up when using the rift to verify the Pixel Density (Supersampling) is set correctly as well as ASW is disabled.

[mytai01]

I've only had trouble turning ASW off using the Ctrl+KP1 keys since the last DCS Beta Update.

[Tempest7]

New to vr so sorry for the stupid question but what is ASW and what does it do?

[mytai01]

New to vr so sorry for the stupid question but what is ASW and what does it do?

 

Supposedly, it smooths out the graphics in Windows 10 for Oculus Rift/Rift S, but in DCS it just distorts the screen and makes it look horrible. Before the the 9/04/2019 Beta Update the Ctrl+KP1 key could disable ASW and DCS ran fine, but now the keys don't work...and it looks like crap in VR...I don't know if other brands besides Rift use it...

 

If you're running Windows 7, ASW doesn't work; so you're lucky!

Edited September 6, 2019 by mytai01

[Tempest7]

Does it effect the Index?

[dburne]

Supposedly, it smooths out the graphics in Windows 10 for Oculus Rift/Rift S, but in DCS it just distorts the screen and makes it look horrible. Before the the 9/04/2019 Beta Update the Ctrl+KP1 key could disable ASW and DCS ran fine, but now the keys don't work...and it looks like crap in VR...I don't know if other brands besides Rift use it...

 

If you're running Windows 7, ASW doesn't work; so you're lucky!

 

It has never been Ctrl+KP1.

It has always been Ctrl+Numpad 1.

Ensure Numlock is on.

 

Alternatively, one can use the Oculus Tray Tool with a profile set for DCS.exe. I use this method and it turns it off for me every time. I even get audio confirmation when profile is applied. I prefer this rather than having to press key combos when I have headset on and in cockpit.

 

Below are the different types of ASW:

 

 

Control-Numpad1: Disables ASW and returns to the standard rendering mode.

Control-Numpad2: Forces apps to 45Hz with ASW disabled. Depending on the application, you are likely to experience judder.

Control-Numpad3: Forces apps to 45Hz with ASW enabled. Enabling and disabling ASW will help you see the effects of ASW.

Control-Numpad4: Enables ASW. ASW will automatically turn on and off, depending on whether the app maintains a 90Hz frame rate. This will be the default rendering mode when ASW is officially enabled in the runtime.

 

ASW is proprietary to the Oculus Rift/ Rift S.

Steam VR uses a technique they call motion smoothing iirc.

Also note for the Rift S it would be 40hz/80 hz, whereas Rift would be the 45/90hz.

https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/pcsdk/1.9/concepts/asynchronous-spacewarp/

Edited September 6, 2019 by dburne

[mytai01]

It has never been Ctrl+KP1.

It has always been Ctrl+Numpad 1.

Ensure Numlock is on.

 

Alternatively, one can use the Oculus Tray Tool with a profile set for DCS.exe. I use this method and it turns it off for me every time. I even get audio confirmation when profile is applied. I prefer this rather than having to press key combos when I have headset on and in cockpit.

 

Below are the different types of ASW:

 

 

Control-Numpad1: Disables ASW and returns to the standard rendering mode.

Control-Numpad2: Forces apps to 45Hz with ASW disabled. Depending on the application, you are likely to experience judder.

Control-Numpad3: Forces apps to 45Hz with ASW enabled. Enabling and disabling ASW will help you see the effects of ASW.

Control-Numpad4: Enables ASW. ASW will automatically turn on and off, depending on whether the app maintains a 90Hz frame rate. This will be the default rendering mode when ASW is officially enabled in the runtime.

 

ASW is proprietary to the Oculus Rift/ Rift S.

Steam VR uses a technique they call motion smoothing iirc.

Also note for the Rift S it would be 40hz/80 hz, whereas Rift would be the 45/90hz.

https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/pcsdk/1.9/concepts/asynchronous-spacewarp/

 

KP1 is Numpad 1...;)

[dburne]

KP1 is Numpad 1...;)

 

KP are the numbers above your keyboard keys that go in a row left to right, just below the F keys. Numpad has the numbers over on the right of the keyboard, in usually rows three wide - at least on my keyboard.

They are identified separately in the software and certainly not the same.

Edited September 6, 2019 by dburne

[mytai01]

KP are the numbers above your keyboard keys that go in a row left to right, just below the F keys. Numpad has the numbers over on the right of the keyboard, in usually rows three wide - at least on my keyboard.

They are identified separately in the software and certainly not the same.

 

KP has always stood for KeyPad. "A keypad is a set of buttons arranged in a block or "pad" which bear digits, symbols or alphabetical letters" -Wikipedia. The numbers that are in a group to the right of the keyboard. And BTW, the ones that control the ASW have stopped working altogether...;) So, whether you say, "Numpad" or "Keypad," they are the same thing...You're confusing KP which is KeyPad for Number Keys which are the row of numbers above the keyboard...

Edited September 6, 2019 by mytai01

[dburne]

KP has always stood for KeyPad. "A keypad is a set of buttons arranged in a block or "pad" which bear digits, symbols or alphabetical letters" -Wikipedia. The numbers that are in a group to the right of the keyboard. And BTW, the ones that control the ASW have stopped working altogether...;) So, whether you say, "Numpad" or "Keypad," they are the same thing...You're confusing KP which is KeyPad for Number Keys which are the row of numbers above the keyboard...

 

Well I guess that may be, would not be first time I was confused lol.

 

In any event, Oculus Tray Tool with profile set works great for me - turns ASW off every time when launching DCS.

[BigDuke6ixx]

KP are the numbers above your keyboard keys that go in a row left to right, just below the F keys. Numpad has the numbers over on the right of the keyboard, in usually rows three wide - at least on my keyboard.

They are identified separately in the software and certainly not the same.

 

Yep, clearly the OP hasn't pressed the correct buttons.

[30mikemike]

Just an observation but why are people turning ASW off? I tried it and the frames jump between all sorts and it's juddery as hell. Am I doing something wrong??

[Bob_Bushman]

Just an observation but why are people turning ASW off? I tried it and the frames jump between all sorts and it's juddery as hell. Am I doing something wrong??

 

Nope, in fact I find turning ASW off, utterly bonkers.

it is going to cause blurry, double vision, stuttery mess, vs with ASW on, you might see some wavy lines between your cockpit and the world when flying really close to things.

 

In a jet that pretty much means during taxi time and that's about it.

 

Now it will look absolutely horrible if your system cannot maintain the target 50% fps, but then you really have bigger issues.

[30mikemike]

Nope, in fact I find turning ASW off, utterly bonkers.

it is going to cause blurry, double vision, stuttery mess, vs with ASW on, you might see some wavy lines between your cockpit and the world when flying really close to things.

 

In a jet that pretty much means during taxi time and that's about it.

 

Now it will look absolutely horrible if your system cannot maintain the target 50% fps, but then you really have bigger issues.

 

Mine seems to be locked at 40FPS for whatever reason, it’s glass smooth though. That’s with PD 1.5 and MSAA x2.

[dburne]

Mine is very smooth with ASW off and it is just a better experience for me.

I certainly can not explain why.

[BigDuke6ixx]

Mine is very smooth with ASW off and it is just a better experience for me.

I certainly can not explain why.

 

Isn’t it obvious that your high end pc doesn’t need it.