Demokrator Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 Russian Su-27, Polish F-16 and NATO fighter aircraft started on the operational phase of the joint Vigilant Skies 2011 anti-terrorism drills by intercepting a plane hijacked by terrorists over Poland, Russian National Antiterrorism Committee. {no sound}
Vekkinho Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 The last one looks photoshoped. The light is a bit odd ? And the scale of the terrain is also a bit weird :P Most of the photographs of today are somewhat photoshoped, just think of gamma level , brightness, sharpness etc. Today's super pics are kinda like supermodels, everyone has some sort of make up to make 'em seem perfect. I like photoshop as well but in hardly noticable amount, just as I like girls who wear makeup that can be noticed only by using your tongue. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Lucas_From_Hell Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 I think someone had posted that one here before and it was proven to be 'shopped in the end. Looks pretty sharp though :)
Demokrator Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 (edited) U.S B-24 Liberator hit by 88mm(probably)Japanese flak shell over island of Koror. 1945. Edited June 12, 2011 by Demokrator
Vekkinho Posted June 11, 2011 Posted June 11, 2011 Russian Su-27, Polish F-16 and NATO fighter aircraft started on the operational phase of the joint Vigilant Skies 2011 anti-terrorism drills by intercepting a plane hijacked by terrorists over Poland, Russian National Antiterrorism Committee. {no sound} By looking the video one can clearly see higher AOA with F-16 than Su-27 who rules in the <600km/h arena. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
mikoyan Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 actually if I'm not mistaken that one was hit by a bomb from another bomber
mikoyan Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 mi-28 crash video http://rutube.ru/tracks/1492550.html?v=63a93c1bec5daa45f2002f4545425f40
Bucic Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 mi-28 crash video http://rutube.ru/tracks/1492550.html?v=63a93c1bec5daa45f2002f4545425f40 At 1:32? F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
AlphaOneSix Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 They look like test autorotations to me. But then again I don't understand Russian so I may be missing something.
Panp Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 You are right :) They are practicing autorotations with power recovery.
Demokrator Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) actually if I'm not mistaken that one was hit by a bomb from another bomber You are mistaken my friend: Pilot 2nd Lt. Glenn R. Custer, O-2058730 (KIA / BNR) Co-Pilot 2nd Lt Irving R. Brown, O-778710 (KIA) Navigator 2nd Lt Wallace F. Kaufman, O-931082 (POW - executed) Bombardier 2nd Lt Norbert J. Giese, O-929814 (KIA) Radio T/Sgt James R. Tenney, 32677148 (KIA) Engineer Sgt Richard E. Grimes, 32974352 (KIA) Nose Gunner Cpl Victor B. Wilson, 13195222 (KIA) Top Turret Cpl Irving Topp, 12177268 (KIA) Ball Turret Cpl Robert N. Shillenn, 33576063 (KIA) Tail Gunner Cpl Albin Rynkiewicz, 4205866 (KIA) Passenger Sgt Floyd Collins Bennett, 14185619 (KIA) Crashed May 4, 1945 MACR 14351 Aircraft History Engines R-1830-65 serial number 45-5366, 45-5448, 45-5918, 45-5304. 50 Caliber Machine gun serial numbers 1665019, 1415253, 1266567, 1266886, 1540482, 1052918, 1220912, 1220827, 1266615, 1221313. Mission History Took off from Angaur Airfield flying in the #4 position on a bombing mission against anti-aircraft installations on Koror. Over the target, while on the bomb run, this B-24 was hit by anti-aircraft fire between the inboard #2 engine and fuselage, causing the left wing to fold, then break off. The fuselage fell in a flat spiral until it crashed. Film footage appearing in "Mission to Koror and Arakabesan, Palau Islands" and a photograph record this B-24 hit and falling earthward. Also, several crew members aboard other B-24s witness the crash. Fates of the Crew Declared dead the day of the mission, the entire crew was killed in the crash, with the exception of Kaufman. He was captured by the Japanese an executed. Pat Scannon adds: "In '01, working with Professor Donald Shuster and his wife at the University of Guam, we located his executioner in Japan and I was able to interview him there - quite an experience. [This interview is included in the documentary Last Flight Home]. None of these executed airmen's remains, except for LT Kaufman, have yet been found. Search After the crash a US Navy PBY Catalina attempted a search, but the site was in close proximity to enemy installations and could not get close enough to search. Wreckage The wreckage landed just off shore and the wing into shallow water south of Koror at roughly 7° 20' N 134° 29' E, and remains 'in situ' to this day. The left wing of this bomber was identified by Pat Scannon in 1994 on the top of a small island about a mile from the wing of B-24J 44-40603. Pat Scannon adds: "There is a myth about an American bomb striking the wing. We dispelled when Dan got his superbly cleaned up version [of this footage]. When looking frame by frame (which I have done for hours), one can see no bomb strike the wing (although you can see plenty of bombs falling from above, as he points out) and one can clearly see the wing explode from below. Even the vets from 494th go back and forth on this but it all happened so fast that the only way to tell is by examining the cleaned up film. The wing streaming fuel in that footage is also from this same B-24. Dan O'Brien found that footage with the better known wing collapse footage." Memorials The following crew members are buried together at Long Island National Cemetery on August 31, 1949 at section J at sites 13630, 13631, 13649, 13650: Rynkiewicz, Brown, Tenney, Grimes, Wilson, Shillenn, Bennett, Giese and Topp. Edited June 12, 2011 by Demokrator
Boberro Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 By looking the video one can clearly see higher AOA with F-16 than Su-27 who rules in the <600km/h arena. ;) Don't forget Su-27 is larger and was clean. F-16 had fuel tanks... ;) Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
Mikoyan89 Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 You are right :) They are practicing autorotations with power recovery. I wondered how in a turbine helicopter you could make autorotation practice...so they put throttles on idle and make the autorotation until touching the ground?because i know that with piston engined helicopter,you can do autorotation-practice until few feet above the ground and in the final part of the manouvre you begin to increase engine power so to enter in hovering ,but this with a turbine engined helicopter would be too much slow and it could lead to a crash landing YouTube Blog
Demokrator Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 I wondered how in a turbine helicopter you could make autorotation practice...so they put throttles on idle and make the autorotation until touching the ground? No they just cut off engine, that's it:D.
Bucic Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) I wondered how in a turbine helicopter you could make autorotation practice...so they put throttles on idle and make the autorotation until touching the ground?because i know that with piston engined helicopter,you can do autorotation-practice until few feet above the ground and in the final part of the manouvre you begin to increase engine power so to enter in hovering ,but this with a turbine engined helicopter would be too much slow and it could lead to a crash landing EC135 has a "simulate for autorotation" engines operation mode. In DCS BS I found idle mode not sufficient to properly train for autorotation event. Edited June 12, 2011 by Bucic F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
AlphaOneSix Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 Cut the engines? Are you crazy?!? Autorotations in a turbine helicopter are the same as in a piston helicopter. Very rarely are practice autoroations taken all the way to the ground, since that's a great way to break a helicopter. Most often, in both piston and turbine powered helicopters, power is reapplied before touchdown (i.e. the throttle is rolled up again from idle). In fact, you normally add power well before you get too close to the ground. In my experience, autorotations are typically terminated at around 500 feet, give or take a few hundred feet. Taking the throttle to idle in a helicopter is basically the same thing as cutting the engines, for all intents and purposes, since as long as you keep the main rotor speed within the specified range, it will be spinning way faster than the free turbines on the engines...that is, the overrunning clutches in the main gearbox will be...well...overrun, and the engines will not be providing any power to the main gearbox.
AlphaOneSix Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 In DCS BS I found idle mode not sufficient to properly train for autorotation event. This is true, the engines in DCS BS, at idle, are producing way too much power so you can't really autorotate properly...well, the start is fine, but flaring at the bottom is not realistic at all, as you can basically hover with the engines at ground idle (not gonna happen in a real helicopter).
Ross-impress Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 BUDDY RESCUE (Italian Call 2011 Viterbo) 1 Configuration: Windows 11 Home/ Intel Core i9-12900F/ RTX 3080 10 GB/ 64GB DDR4-3200/ 2 TB m.2 NVMe/ HP Reverb G2/V2/ Thrustmaster Cougar Hotas/ INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT: @ross_impress • Instagram-foto's en -video's (everything about the real flying world, drone and DCS)
Ross-impress Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 Both are awesome! Ross, can you provide a direct link to a higher res version? Pls find high res.. 1 Configuration: Windows 11 Home/ Intel Core i9-12900F/ RTX 3080 10 GB/ 64GB DDR4-3200/ 2 TB m.2 NVMe/ HP Reverb G2/V2/ Thrustmaster Cougar Hotas/ INSTAGRAM ACCOUNT: @ross_impress • Instagram-foto's en -video's (everything about the real flying world, drone and DCS)
Demokrator Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) "Ejection vectors" 1969 Airforce primitive short training film. Pure awesomnes from the begining till the end. P.S.This film including couple of very rare"holy shit" moments: 5:30-5:40 for example. P.S.S This Narrator just rox very hard! :) Edited June 12, 2011 by Demokrator
Bucic Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) Thanks, Ross! EDIT: Vid removed, Demokreator posted earlier :) Do you guys think it makes sense to post vids from channels like AYRBOYD? Edited June 12, 2011 by Bucic F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
Demokrator Posted June 12, 2011 Posted June 12, 2011 Thanks, Ross! Do you guys think it makes sense to post vids from channels like AYRBOYD? I think it make sense mate, because not everyone subscribed to this awesome channel.:) P.S. Airboyd logo speaks for itself. P.S.S If you want I'll cut this stuff immediately;).
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