UCAS Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Paris 2013 Paris air show images | International Airshow Images | flightglobal.com Video Highlights Paris air show 2013 | International Airshow Videos | flightglobal.com Blog Paris air show 2013 | Live from the Paris air show | flightglobal.com
Namenlos Ein Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Iomax Archangel. https://www.iomax.net/media/ http://www.iomax.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/ArchAngel-Brochure_English.pdf
UCAS Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 ^Holy heck, there's some interesting stuff on that, Left-to-right: 1. Hydra pod. 2. SDB??? 3. M197 20mm Gatling gun as per Cobra. 4. ??? 5. As 2. 6. Hellfire(?) and 4xAPKWS II.
AlphaOneSix Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 3. M197 20mm Gatling gun as per Cobra. Think smaller. GAU-19
UCAS Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Think smaller. GAU-19 LOL. You're right. The end is wrong for an M197. What's on pylon 4?
tobaschi Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Dogfight between Rafale and F-22 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ba3_1371593163
AlphaOneSix Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 LOL. You're right. The end is wrong for an M197. What's on pylon 4? Another GAU-19.
UCAS Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Dogfight between Rafale and F-22 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ba3_1371593163 Special excuses edition. F-22s had external tanks?:megalol: Watched it in slow motion on full screen, no tanks anywhere to be seen. Anyone see these two huge tanks sticking out from the wings in the video?
Pilotasso Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Dogfight between Rafale and F-22 http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ba3_1371593163 That was the most hard worked mock engagement I have ever seen. .
Laurius Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 ... Anyone see these two huge tanks sticking out from the wings in the video? Nope, I don't ! ;) Anyway it's hard to tell which one is the best between those two amazing fighters. In the best case, I would say they're pretty equivalent, as stated at the begining of the Liveleak's video Asus P8Z68 Deluxe, Intel Core i7-2600K (3.4 GHz), Corsair Vengeance 2x4096 Mo DDR3 1866 MHz, SSD 120 Go Vertex 2, EVGA GeForce GTX 970 FTW ACX 2.0 4Go (04G-P4-2978-KR), TM HOTAS Warthog #03797 (MB replaced), Saitek Combat Pro Rudder, TrackIR 5, TM Cougar MFDs with Lilliput 8" UM 80
Weta43 Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 No, no tanks, So maybe they are roughly equivalent - rather than the F-22 being so much better that it flew with external tanks and still held its own.. Cheers.
UCAS Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) There's no points for second best. I'm most surprised the F-22 didn't just use his TV to point his aircraft at the Rafale and fire a missile. I've been told many times that this is possible.:megalol::megalol: Edited June 20, 2013 by UCAS
Pilotasso Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 There's no points for second best. I'm most surprised the F-22 didn't just use his TV to point his aircraft at the Rafale and fire a missile. I've been told many times that this is possible.:megalol::megalol: Not possble with AIM-9M and a bad idea given how close planes were (only a couple hundred feet away), not to mention, doing it would only give the rafale a better target. Remember the SU-30MKI at Red flag? .
topol-m Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 There's no points for second best. I'm most surprised the F-22 didn't just use his TV to point his aircraft at the Rafale and fire a missile. I've been told many times that this is possible.:megalol::megalol: You are looking at a particular case (1 particular dogfight) and drawing conclusions. When you have the results and even the videos of several dozens of dogfights between them then you can draw such conclusions. I'll just throw a wild guess here that the rafale would get its arse kicked in most of the fights. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
lxvanwyk Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 1V1 is also very superficial doesn't often happen in real life. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
112th_Rossi Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 1V1 is also very superficial doesn't often happen in real life. I dunno. You might want to see what goes on outside my local boozer on Saturday night.
lxvanwyk Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 At my local boozer its mostly 6V1 not very good odds for the one. In the SA Air Force we have a saying - "there we were......2 against a thousand.......boy we only F*$@#d up those 2". [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
UCAS Posted June 21, 2013 Posted June 21, 2013 You are looking at a particular case (1 particular dogfight) and drawing conclusions. When you have the results and even the videos of several dozens of dogfights between them then you can draw such conclusions. I'll just throw a wild guess here that the rafale would get its arse kicked in most of the fights. I'll be happy to see the other videos with the Rafale getting its arse kicked. I've been told the Rafale wasn't even allowed to use HMCS and LOAL with the MICA IR for the purpose of exercise, otherwise most of the manoeuvring would have all been redundant.:D
Recommended Posts