Patch 1.13 Requested Features/Fixes List (*Merged)

[littlejohn1959]

I think it's time you stopped telling people what they can say.;)

 

power to the people mate .

power to the people ,,

right on . :thumbup:

[Bearitall]

I think it is about time that ED just steps up and tells everyone. No patch 1.13 instead of all their foolishness. They know, so have some respect for customer and tell us. End all this speculation now, it's been long over due.:(

 

Without getting my post deleted again, I will say this about any patch in the future for LoMac...not going to happen they have made that clear enough..with the progression of Black Shark and its future add-on's..

 

We now have to rely on long standing Lock On Community members to come up with ways to improve on it..

 

Long Live " LOCK ON MODERN AIR COMBAT ":thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Edited April 6, 2009 by Bearitall

[zokier]

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=41170

 

patch IS coming :O

[Kuky]

Super News!

[Sulman]

Wonderful. Thanks ED.

[Dusty Rhodes]

Some people should be eating their words, or deleting their posts :D

[Razor]

My request for the new patch is a flyable F-16C model !!

I'm tired to use F-16 skin and flying with a F-15 pit !!!!!

[Kuky]

My request for the new patch is a flyable F-16C model !!

I'm tired to use F-16 skin and flying with a F-15 pit !!!!!

 

it's been said many, many times if there ever was to be a patch for LockOn it won't have new flyables... don't know why you say now you want one :music_whistling:

[DarkWanderer]

it's been said many, many times if there ever was to be a patch for LockOn it won't have new flyables...

It was said many times there won't be any development of Lock On ;)

[Kuky]

^^^

 

As far as I recall, it was never said definitely that there is not going to be any more patching of LockOn and that they might do it once they have the resources and after DCS BlackShark is done.

 

Now that they finally do promise one I think it's really not nice to 'request' even a new flyable :)

 

Anyway, I don't wanna start some flaming war here.... I like the announcement.

Edited May 4, 2009 by Kuky

[104th_Crunch]

Fix the bugs and improve what's in LO currently before releasing something new please.

[RvEYoda]

Fix the bugs and improve what's in LO currently before releasing something new please.

 

This msg :thumbup:

 

Like some radar avoinics fixes

 

 

 

Avionics request:

 

• Elevation and Azimuth setting follows target (In all planes, _all modes_, )
  
• Fix TWS memory in eagle so it does not report ghost contacts at time of detection, but expected new position
  
• Fix so that elevation and azimuth adjusts Instantly when bugging, so its possible to bug memorized tws tracks outside elevation/azimuth
  
• Implement target step functionality TWS (both step and cycle pdt)
  
• Implement Long range boresight F15 (and possibly 8 bar scan)
  
• Fix F-15 radar angle elevation indicator (the *<* should not move like it does right now)
  
• Have Automatic HOJ engage when target starts jamming, regardless of previous lock method if outside 25 km
  
• Make HOJ go back to TWS bug after HOJ target goes ECM off (if previous tracking mode was TWS)
  
• Make ECM contacts buggable TWS after burnthrough achieved (currently they go auto STT)
  
• Make it possible to go scan->bug->stt->bug->scan and NOT scan->bug->stt->scan
  
• Disable LA override for weapons were it produces unrealistic results.
  
• Make RWRs give not so 100% perfect range reading on warnings/missiles
  
• Make so that you have to hold down the fire button 1-2 seconds to fire a radar missile, for all planes
  
• Make eagle radar capable of detecting cold aspect targets further out than 21 nm.
  
• Missile TimeToImpact/toPitbull disappears when out of missiles but still have a missile in flight
  

 

Missile electronic systems

 

• For missiles in scan mode/relock mode, reduce scanning sweep angles, so a broken missile doesnt relock 90 deg off bore
  
• Reduce/break chaff efficiency, also make zero unless close to beam (since they can easily be separated with doppler shift if head on)
  
• Greatly increase prox fuse (and explosion strength) for R77, R73, Aim120, aim9, to compensate for these missiles problems catching barrell roll targets
  
• After missiles lose lock, have them start look at expected target new position, not just exactly where it was lost
  
• Have missiles stick on flares a bit longer after going for it, dont switch back to AC so fast
  
• Completely remodel numbers for radar floor/ground clutter
  

 

Physics

 

• Fix f-15 engines high (right now cannot fly mil power above 30k with combat load, and the flanker has 3 times the engine power)
  
• Add drag to missiles going up, reduce drag on missiles going down
  
• Increase maximum speed of R77 and AIm120
  
• Increase burn time Aim7 (15 sec) and R-27E (not certain), increase drag slightly
  
• Fix Aim9 burn time (it's not supposed to be 3 sec :)) and top speed
  
• For all a2a missiles : add a part of plane launch speed to missile max speed, alternatively,
  remove missiles speed cap entirely (or add 50% to it), and cut missile accelleration by 70% (going from approx 30g+ -> 10g acc)
  

 

Lua interface bugs

 

• Make Lua radar export work in tws mode (eagle)
  
• When using lua mode switch (example: bvr->CAC) also switch keyboard (example : bvr->CAC)
  
• The analog command for azimuth angle does not work (it switches setting instead of moves radar),fix
  
• The discrete command for azimuth angle movement only works in eagle, fix for flanker/mig
  

 

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Edited May 4, 2009 by =RvE=Yoda

[jason_peters]

great news indeed

[104th_Crunch]

Nice detail Yoda!

[usul]

Very good new! Thanks ED!

[Pilotasso]

This msg :thumbup:

 

Like some radar avoinics fixes

 

 

 

Avionics request:

 

• Elevation and Azimuth setting follows target (In all planes, _all modes_, )
  
• Fix TWS memory in eagle so it does not report ghost contacts at time of detection, but expected new position
  
• Fix so that elevation and azimuth adjusts Instantly when bugging, so its possible to bug memorized tws tracks outside elevation/azimuth
  
• Implement target step functionality TWS (both step and cycle pdt)
  
• Implement Long range boresight F15 (and possibly 8 bar scan)
  
• Fix F-15 radar angle elevation indicator (the *<* should not move like it does right now)
  
• Have Automatic HOJ engage when target starts jamming, regardless of previous lock method if outside 25 km
  
• Make HOJ go back to TWS bug after HOJ target goes ECM off (if previous tracking mode was TWS)
  
• Make ECM contacts buggable TWS after burnthrough achieved (currently they go auto STT)
  
• Make it possible to go scan->bug->stt->bug->scan and NOT scan->bug->stt->scan
  
• Disable LA override for weapons were it produces unrealistic results.
  
• Make RWRs give not so 100% perfect range reading on warnings/missiles
  
• Make so that you have to hold down the fire button 1-2 seconds to fire a radar missile, for all planes
  
• Make eagle radar capable of detecting cold aspect targets further out than 21 nm.
  
• Missile TimeToImpact/toPitbull disappears when out of missiles but still have a missile in flight
  

 

Missile electronic systems

 

• For missiles in scan mode/relock mode, reduce scanning sweep angles, so a broken missile doesnt relock 90 deg off bore
  
• Reduce/break chaff efficiency, also make zero unless close to beam (since they can easily be separated with doppler shift if head on)
  
• Greatly increase prox fuse (and explosion strength) for R77, R73, Aim120, aim9, to compensate for these missiles problems catching barrell roll targets
  
• After missiles lose lock, have them start look at expected target new position, not just exactly where it was lost
  
• Have missiles stick on flares a bit longer after going for it, dont switch back to AC so fast
  
• Completely remodel numbers for radar floor/ground clutter
  

 

Physics

 

• Fix f-15 engines high (right now cannot fly mil power above 30k with combat load, and the flanker has 3 times the engine power)
  
• Add drag to missiles going up, reduce drag on missiles going down
  
• Increase maximum speed of R77 and AIm120
  
• Increase burn time Aim7 (15 sec) and R-27E (not certain), increase drag slightly
  
• Fix Aim9 burn time (it's not supposed to be 3 sec :)) and top speed
  
• For all a2a missiles : add a part of plane launch speed to missile max speed, alternatively,
  remove missiles speed cap entirely (or add 50% to it), and cut missile accelleration by 70% (going from approx 30g+ -> 10g acc)
  

 

Lua interface bugs

 

• Make Lua radar export work in tws mode (eagle)
  
• When using lua mode switch (example: bvr->CAC) also switch keyboard (example : bvr->CAC)
  
• The analog command for azimuth angle does not work (it switches setting instead of moves radar),fix
  
• The discrete command for azimuth angle movement only works in eagle, fix for flanker/mig
  

 

.

 

Another fundemantal aspect for multiplayer server options: Weapons loads lock feature! ;)

[RvEYoda]

Another fundemantal aspect for multiplayer server options: Weapons loads lock feature! ;)

 

indeed, only what is preselected in the mission.

[Udat]

1: Would AMF for all flyables be too much to ask?

2: What Yoda said.

3: Make known exploits impossible.

4: Maybe implement some of the community-made mods, like simmod terrain/airfields/a-10a, 3go su-27, tekateka coastline mod, Yoda's mod for objective-based multiplay, etc.. (if the makers are willing, offcourse..)

 

But most important by far is missile performance and flight models!

[GGTharos]

I'll take a crack with a definitely un-official but probably reasonable guess:

 

1: Would AMF for all flyables be too much to ask?

 

Yes. It takes a year to create a solid AFM for a single aircraft, a bit less with experience.

 

2: What Yoda said.

Unlikely everything can be implemented, but we all have high hopes.

 

3: Make known exploits impossible.

More or less as above.

 

4: Maybe implement some of the community-made mods, like simmod terrain/airfields/a-10a, 3go su-27, tekateka coastline mod, Yoda's mod for objective-based multiplay, etc.. (if the makers are willing, offcourse..)

 

But most important by far is missile performance and flight models!

Rather unlikely that ED will incorporate 3rd party mods so easily, AFAIK - maybe some of them. In other cases, if at all possible, they might be able to help enhance a 3rd party mod by adding/fixing lua exports.

[RedTiger]

"Further development" is good news!

[X-man]

Su-27 Data-link :D

[Udat]

Ouch, 1 year for a single AFM? I was kinda dreading it'd be a lot of work, but damn.. Thanks for answers though, GG :)

[pauldy]

I guess i'm also a fanboy if i say the the F-15's HUD Pitch ladder fonts are too small~ (The A-10 also has this problem..)

 

and that the Eagle's back up instruments are not functioning correctly~

 

but yup~ it's an issue i hope that would also be fixed should Eagle dynamics make a patch..

[Konovalov]

As someone who only now is getting into Lockon Flamming Cliffs despite owning the sim for years I think it is great news that ED haven't given up on it or the community. :cheer3nc:

 

I do not expect new flyables or for that matter advanced flight models of other aircraft. I will be happy if they use a little spit and polish to enhance what already is a good sim. :)

[GGTharos]

This is a wishlist thread.

 

Argue missiles elsewhere.