DerekSpeare Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Hi, I had the idea last night to put the jet into CAT3 to help make it easier (for me) to have better granular control for air-to-air refueling. While I know it's not SOP/NATOPS approved, I approved it for testing (for myself) and think that perhaps it makes a bit of a difference. And yes, I do know that enabling the refueling switch also tells the FLCS to make it easier to do. Maybe it's a placebo, but if it helps you to do this, great! :smartass: Post your results, too! My video of the test: :joystick::pilotfly: Derek "BoxxMann" Speare derekspearedesigns.com 25,000+ Gaming Enthusiasts Trust DSD Components to Perform! i7-11700k 4.9g | RTX3080ti (finally!)| 64gb Ram | 2TB NVME PCIE4| Reverb G1 | CH Pro Throt/Fighterstick Pro | 4 DSD Boxes Falcon XT/AT/3.0/4.0 | LB2 | DCS | LOMAC Been Flight Simming Since 1988! Useful VR settings and tips for DCS HERE
HawkDCS Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Opening the refueling door puts FBW in lower gains anyways. Rig: 5960X @ 4.5GHZ 32GB 3000Mhz DDR4 Titan XP Dell 3415W 21:9 Thrustmaster Warthog
Harlikwin Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Opening the refueling door puts FBW in lower gains anyways. IRL. Does it in DCS right now? New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
VampireNZ Posted October 17, 2019 Posted October 17, 2019 Just placebo I am afraid Derek. Cat III only reduces maximum AOA to 16°-18° from 25°, reduces maximum roll rate command by 40%, and maximum rudder deflection. So unless you are doing some pretty extreme AAR using the maximum control surface limits...then it won't make any difference. But hey if it works for you then roll with it. Also as you mention - opening the AAR door below 400 knots will put the FLCS into takeoff and landing gains setting (pitch rate command till 10° AOA then blended, and roll rate limiting). Edit: Yes this change is noticeable in DCS, at least if using the FSSB force sensing base. Vampire
DerekSpeare Posted October 18, 2019 Author Posted October 18, 2019 I'm going to get some chicken bones soaked in jet fuel and keep them in a boodoo-hoodoo hex bag, too...anything to make A2ARF easier! Now that @Vampire mentions it, I do remember that CAT3 limits certain characteristics but not enough to have the effect I thought. Derek "BoxxMann" Speare derekspearedesigns.com 25,000+ Gaming Enthusiasts Trust DSD Components to Perform! i7-11700k 4.9g | RTX3080ti (finally!)| 64gb Ram | 2TB NVME PCIE4| Reverb G1 | CH Pro Throt/Fighterstick Pro | 4 DSD Boxes Falcon XT/AT/3.0/4.0 | LB2 | DCS | LOMAC Been Flight Simming Since 1988! Useful VR settings and tips for DCS HERE
=Panther= Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 IRL. Does it in DCS right now? Yes it is working. Twitch Channel [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Virtual Thunderbirds, LLC | Sponsored by Thrustmaster Z390 Aorus Xtreme, i9 9900k, G.SKILL TridentZ Series 32GB, 1080ti 11GB, Obutto R3Volution, Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog, TPR, Cougar MFDs, FSSB R3L, JetSeat, Oculus Rift S, Buddy-Fox A-10C UFC, F/A-18C UFC, Tek Creations F-16 ICP
bbrz Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Opening the refueling door puts FBW in lower gains anyways. Furthermore FLCS takeoff and landing gain disables the CATI/III function, hence no difference when switching. i7-7700K 4.2GHz, 16GB, GTX 1070
Sierra99 Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Not to mention refueling takes place with aircraft carrying both configurations of weapons... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Primary Computer ASUS Z390-P, i7-9700K CPU @ 5.0Ghz, 32GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4 @ 3200Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce 1070 Ti AMP Extreme, Samsung 970 EVO M.2 NVMe drives (1Tb & 500 Gb), Windows 10 Professional, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Thrustmaster Warthog Stick, Thrustmaster Cougar Throttle, Cougar MFDs x3, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals and TrackIR 5. -={TAC}=-DCS Server Gigabyte GA-Z68XP-UD3, i7-3770K CPU @ 3.90GHz, 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 @ 1600Mhz, ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 970.
Harlikwin Posted October 18, 2019 Posted October 18, 2019 Yes it is working. :thumbup: New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
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