Insane shaking in sustained turn.

[DmitriKozlowsky]

Insane shaking in sustained turn. I get these really insane shaking of cockpit when sustaining 4+G turn or at high instantaneous turn entry. It feels like every part of the aircraft wants to separate from every other part of the aircraft.

[Spiceman]

That’s the Tomcat talking to you, listen to it. Without even looking down you can tell what your AOA is and whether you’ll be sustaining energy or bleeding energy. You can transition from max rate to minimum radius, all while not even having to bring your eyes into the cockpit. It’s a beautiful thing. And it’s absolutely realistic.

[lxsapper]

Watch your AoA. Try to not go over 15-17.

[Fri13]

A1: "Without even looking down you can tell what your AOA is and whether you’ll be sustaining energy or bleeding energy."

 

A2: "Watch your AoA. Try to not go over 15-17."

 

x-D

[Spiceman]

Light shaking starts at 15 units. The real heavy shaking is at 20 units and above and all turns done with rudder (only) at that point. Simplified, but that’s the gouge. Best thing to do is practice it. Enter a turn at 300 knots, and experiment with holding different AOA and observe how the airplane behaves. With enough practice, you can do it purely by seeing and hearing what the airframe vibrations are telling you.

Edited December 29, 2019 by Spiceman

[Victory205]

Shaking? What is this shaking you reference?

 

Oh, you mean aerodynamic buffet! Buffet, now that makes sense. Shaking is what your knees do after a night trap in bad weather with a pitching deck and a sour tanker. Buffet is what all jets doe at high alpha. The FBW aircraft do too, it’s just that Heatblur models it with far better fidelity.

[DmitriKozlowsky]

Shaking? What is this shaking you reference?

 

Oh, you mean aerodynamic buffet! Buffet, now that makes sense. Shaking is what your knees do after a night trap in bad weather with a pitching deck and a sour tanker. Buffet is what all jets doe at high alpha. The FBW aircraft do too, it’s just that Heatblur models it with far better fidelity.

 

OK. Remember when Jerry hits Tom with a mallet so hard that Tom just shakes and vibrates so hard he leaves motion blur ghosts behind. That kind of buffeting. When Yosemite Sam tries to use a jackhammer on Bugs Bunny's ceiling, and it turns into a hilarious pogo. THat kind of shaking.

[Wizard_03]

Yeah? So stop yanking on the stick so hard, and you won't have excursions above 20 AOA.

[Belphe]

She's not "shaking"! She's talking to you! You need to learn how to listen! She will allow you for a lot! A lot more than other ones out there but you need to know how to please her.. Otherwise your relationship is going down...

 

:megalol:

[eatthis]

i would suggest if shes shaking and sounding like a skeleton having a wank in a biscuit tin , then you are not in a sustained turn but an instant turn bleeding energy like a stuck pig.

 

if you fly the tomcat like a fbw plane she will kill you, fly her like a warbird the size of a tennis court and she will reward you handsomly

[statrekmike]

OK. Remember when Jerry hits Tom with a mallet so hard that Tom just shakes and vibrates so hard he leaves motion blur ghosts behind. That kind of buffeting. When Yosemite Sam tries to use a jackhammer on Bugs Bunny's ceiling, and it turns into a hilarious pogo. THat kind of shaking.

 

It sounds like you are pulling too hard during the turn and need to learn to adjust how hard you are pulling to keep yourself in a good place AoA wise.

 

My suggestion. Hop into a scenario that just lets you fly around without any enemy aircraft or anything. Start by making nice, subtle turns where you are carefully working the stick. Once you have that down and have a good feel for it, start pulling a bit harder and practice keeping the AoA at around 15 units. The plane WILL shake but with careful, thoughtful flying, you will eventually reach a point where you can see and "feel" when you are pulling too much and when you can pull a little more.

 

This is a practice issue more than anything else. More practice produces better results.

[captain_dalan]

Shaking? What is this shaking you reference?

 

 

Maybe he meant this? :D

[Lenux]

Or this one ( 1,25 min )

 

:D

[Mr. Big.Biggs]

Spent today setting up the F14 for the first time.

What a great bird! Whoever says this thing can’t climb is not paying attention. It screams both into the horizontal and vertical if you use some finesse! Great climb rate, great turn radius, just no computers, yank and its all over!

Looking forward to delving into this!