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Does the Ka-50 include any kind of RWR?

I think I've read that it doesn't, true?

If true, you're pretty much screwed once you're spotted by any radar based AA system, you'll never know they're tracking you, locking and firing at you :(

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I personally consider the lack of RWR in Ka-50 as a mistake. Ok, I know - the designated combat environment supposed to be SAM-free. Most threats will be IR-guided missiles, that's why LWR is needed. However RWR would be nice to. Even if "just in case".

 

Does anybody knows why they give up on assembling such a vital equipment? Was it some issue with weight limits, or some technical problems? I really don't get it...

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Check out this short vid from E-for All going on in L.A. right now,I believe this is Wags flying and getting hit by a missle....not much warning,this is going to be tuff!!!!!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2OyKO9CLYY

 

Also What is this yellow indicator on the right side of the screen in arcade mode?

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This vid shows the indicator...looks like it detects pitch/attitude of the gunship.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bKQml2Pm1E&NR=1

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Its my understanding that RWR is not considered necessary since a chopper flies at very low level and quite slowly. Most A/A radars would have problems with ground clutter. As has been said the biggest threat to the Ka 50 are IR missiles which RWR can't detect anyway. The Laser emitter detection system sound interesting. Will be good to see what evasion tactics will be recommended for Stingers etc.

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As long as your rotor is spinning, you are FOREVER visible to a modern fighter's radar. Its missiles, too. F-15E's picked up landed helis at 50nm, because the rotors were spinning - that's in real life.

 

As for evasion tactics - have your flare program running, 'cause you can't evade what you can't see...

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Ok, I know - the designated combat environment supposed to be SAM-free. Most threats will be IR-guided missiles, that's why LWR is needed.

 

Laser Warning is for being targeted by Tanks and Laser Beam riding missiles. IR missiles dont use any Laser designator so LWR will be silent when IR missiles are heading your way.

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As long as your rotor is spinning, you are FOREVER visible to a modern fighter's radar. Its missiles, too. F-15E's picked up landed helis at 50nm, because the rotors were spinning - that's in real life.

 

As for evasion tactics - have your flare program running, 'cause you can't evade what you can't see...

 

Thats very impressive. However is this true for BS??

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Laser Warning is for being targeted by Tanks and Laser Beam riding missiles. IR missiles dont use any Laser designator so LWR will be silent when IR missiles are heading your way.

 

Holy cow! That's true. IR is a passive guidance and its detection is the other story. :doh: How stupid from me. :chair:

 

So... it really sucks. Most of the A2A and G2A missiles are either radar or IR guided. Missiles guided by laser illumination of a target aren't that popular as anti-airborne weapons, I think. So, not much help for surviving...

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Missiles guided by laser illumination of a target aren't that popular as anti-airborne weapons, I think. So, not much help for surviving...

As for me I don't know any LR anti-aircraft missiles in russian army. It's not so effective as it first seems to be

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Maybe it (the LWR) also detects when tanks use laser to measure distance? Before firing. But then it'd be just a bleep or something before a STAFF round tears the chopper apart. (although I'm not sure if the STAFF is in DCS:BS)

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As for me I don't know any LR anti-aircraft missiles in russian army. It's not so effective as it first seems to be

 

Exactly. Laser target designation is used primarily against ground targets. It is not that popular against airborne targets, since their maneuverability.

 

So question for beta testers: does L-140 is useful in BS at all? :music_whistling:

 

Laser guided SAM's:

http://www.military.cz/sweden/RBS70/default_en.htm

http://www.army-technology.com/projects/starstreak/index.html

http://www.sinodefence.com/army/surfacetoairmissile/qw3.asp

 

Anything else?

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It is not that popular against airborne targets, since their maneuverability.

 

Not Hunted A10's with Vikhrs in the T-Frog, no?

 

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Not Hunted A10's with Vikhrs in the T-Frog, no?

 

Good Fun

 

Rofl. I tried this only with some helos. And to lock one wasn't easy for me. Mainly because I had like 10 fps after turning Shkval on. :lol:

 

I think he's just a fighter;)

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And what does "just" supposed to mean? lol

 

Being serious: I'm just some realism fan...

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No RWR in the Ka-50 is a big mistake, since a basic model is very simple technology, even if it was just a rudimentary warning system telling you if you're being painted or not it would do wonders for the morale of the pilots I'd say... you never know for sure that the enemy doesn't posses a radar based AA system. And this lack of a basic warning system makes the helo virtually useless in a hot combat environment. Even the Shilka use radar, and unless you see him before he fires you'll just have to hope he's a poor shot. Meeting a tunguska or any similar system would certainly end in disaster. For you.

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I tend to spot Short Range AAA/SAM systems before they paint me in the T-Frog, be it with the Eye or Shkval: Moral of the Story - Recon your Ingress well and you'll have no Bother. I would think it will be easier in the Helo in any event as you won't tend to over-fly the HZ as quickly as in the T-Frog.........but then there's those Stingers :wallbash:

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I tend to spot Short Range AAA/SAM systems before they paint me in the T-Frog, be it with the Eye...

 

What screen resolution are you playing in?

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1440 x 900

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1440 x 900

 

I see. I was just curious because I play in 1024x768 and it's not that easy to spot ground vehicles from afar (like, from outside their radar range) - and even if I spotted them, identifying them is quite a challenge too (vanilla game, A-10).

 

This Ka-50 stuff sounds like more and more of a challenge... :ermm::joystick:

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