correct as is COMM 2 RADIO mislabled as ARC-222

[FoxOne007]

2 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

We are still looking for actual evidence of the ARC-210 being used in 2007 on a blk50 viper, your above evidence shows it was requested for modification in 2007 which is a step in the right direction for sure. If anyone has any other evidence please feel free to PM me I can add it to my report.

thanks

The first link about the Hill AFB Sqn literally states they deployed in August 2007 with the new ARC-210 radio. The second link also clearly states that in 2007 they were putting ARC-210’s on the jets at Shaw AFB. Additionally the quote also states they started installation in FY06 which starts in September 2005

Edited November 28, 2021 by FoxOne007

[Majik]

[BIGNEWY]

guys I know what I have said, we require more evidence, its that simple, like it or not. 

[FoxOne007]

Just now, BIGNEWY said:

guys I know what I have said, we require more evidence, its that simple, like it or not. 

I feel like we have provided a lot of evidence now. It’s dead clear it was there in 2007 and still is there

[BIGNEWY]

Just now, FoxOne007 said:

I feel like we have provided a lot of evidence now. It’s dead clear it was there in 2007 and still is there

No so far it is not enough, I will feedback to the team on monday what I have, they will decide. 

If I can get more evidence I will also add it. 

 

[FoxOne007]

3 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

No so far it is not enough, I will feedback to the team on monday what I have, they will decide. 

If I can get more evidence I will also add it. 

 

Could you state what kind of extra evidence you are looking for, there is a mechanic that actually worked on the jet stating they were installing it ca. 2007. And then a press release from an airbase saying the same. How is that not good proof of it being installed back then?

[BIGNEWY]

1 minute ago, FoxOne007 said:

Could you state what kind of extra evidence you are looking for, there is a mechanic that actually worked on the jet stating they were installing it ca. 2007. And then a press release from an airbase saying the same. How is that not good proof of it being installed back then?

I am not going to get drawn into an argument with you, I have told you I am looking for more evidence, any evidence to support it, the more I get the better. If you dont understand that there is no point continuing. 

[FoxOne007]

1 minute ago, BIGNEWY said:

I am not going to get drawn into an argument with you, I have told you I am looking for more evidence, any evidence to support it, the more I get the better. If you dont understand that there is no point continuing. 

It was a genuine question, so I know what to look for when trying to get more evidence 

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[BIGNEWY]

1 minute ago, FoxOne007 said:

It was a genuine question, so I know what to look for when trying to get more evidence 

 

If anyone has a picture of a blk50 f-16 from 2007 with the radio it would be jackpot

[FoxOne007]

5 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

If anyone has a picture of a blk50 f-16 from 2007 with the radio it would be jackpot

So this is going to be difficult as there is no ARC-210 control head installed, it goes through the DED, but we’ll do our best

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[FoxOne007]

As mentioned above, it won’t be possible to find an image on it as it’s integrated into the COMM header/DED and doesn’t have it’s own Control Head. So I can just post an image of the box that it looks like but that is just useless, and that box is somewhere in the belly of the jet.

 

what I was able to find is the following: 

Mark Fraker was a Chief Engineer on the F-16 between 2004-2007 where he helped integrate the UON of the ARC 210

from: https://daytonaero.com/wp-content/uploads/Fraker-Mark-03-18.pdf

 

Additionally I was able to find an approval from the Oklahoma senate for FY08 ( again starts Sept. 2007) of $6 million to integrate it on their ANG jets.

https://www.inhofe.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/inhofe-highlights-importance-of-defense-bill

1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said:

If anyone has a picture of a blk50 f-16 from 2007 with the radio it would be jackpot

 

[TEOMOOSE]

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Defense_Acquisitions/8femG8ndKWAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=F-16

This is a review of 2003 through 2007, Page 12.

[Geraki]

In addition can we have a sound signal when voice over voice occurred during transmit ?> right now if 2 pilots speak simultaneously they can not hear each other i think we must have a sound signal that someone tries to speak over the other voice when they transmit simultaneously 

[Dawgboy]

2 hours ago, Geraki said:

In addition can we have a sound signal when voice over voice occurred during transmit ?> right now if 2 pilots speak simultaneously they can not hear each other i think we must have a sound signal that someone tries to speak over the other voice when they transmit simultaneously 

Does this happen in real life?  I'm seeking to understand, not splitting hairs.  

[TEOMOOSE]

12 hours ago, TEOMOOSE said:

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Defense_Acquisitions/8femG8ndKWAC?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=F-16

This is a review of 2003 through 2007, Page 12.

Specifications of the Arc-210 
https://jproc.ca/rrp/rrp3/sea_king_arc210.pdf

and good readings from the book Weapon System Modernization Priorities
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjQvMm5sJn1AhVRSTABHfC1A0IQFnoECCQQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ang.af.mil%2FPortals%2F77%2Fdocuments%2Fang_priorities_books%2F2018%20Mod%20Book.pdf&usg=AOvVaw1pcwB5nUzzSCzCFHHoiiVN

[BIGNEWY]

Hi all, 

just to update you all on where we are with this, 

the ARC-222 is correct for our viper for the year we are simulating (F-16CM Block 50, roughly M4.2+, operated by the United States Air Force and Air National Guard circa 2007). The ARC-210 was being acquired and introduced but was more common later than the viper we are simulating. 

thank you