TorwaK Posted March 3, 2008 Posted March 3, 2008 Man, I don't care what anyone says. The F-16 is a beautiful aircraft. From a to e model. From Blk 1 to 60 Yes it's, but unfortunatelly F-16 is completed its technologic life. LM can't add new features on F-16 anymore because of close wings distance design of the plane. The reason why Turkish AF don't continue to buy it. We made our last 20 units Block 50+ planes order 1 year ago. Regretfully to say but future is F-35A, EF 2000 Trench 3 and of course F-22. PS. Kucsh as usual very good photos from you. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core i7-6700K, @5GHz | Asus Maximus Hero VIII | 2 x eVGA GTX 970 SLI | Kingston Predator 16GB DDR4-3000Mhz | 2 x Samsung 850 PRO 240GB RAID-0 | AOC G2460PG G-SYNC LCD | OCULUS RIFT CV1 VR | THRUSTMASTER HOTAS WARTHOG | CH PRO PEDALS
mvsgas Posted March 3, 2008 Posted March 3, 2008 Yes it's, but unfortunatelly F-16 is completed its technologic life. LM can't add new features on F-16 anymore because of close wings distance design of the plane. The reason why Turkish AF don't continue to buy it. We made our last 20 units Block 50+ planes order 1 year ago. Regretfully to say but future is F-35A, EF 2000 Trench 3 and of course F-22. The P-51, ME-109 and the Spitfire completed its technological life years ago, that does not stop them from being great looking aircraft. Besides, after years of being cover in hydraulic fluid, oil, fuel and grease. After being cut, bruise, beaten and abuse by that aircraft. I have so many scars on my head from "viper bites" Panels, door, hell even a AIM-9 did not like the way the skin on my skull look and decided to rearrange it. I have been under that thing fixing something longer than I know my son. I have been beaten into submission and I have no choice but to love those stupid F-16. 1 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
TorwaK Posted March 3, 2008 Posted March 3, 2008 I have been beaten into submission and I have no choice but to love those stupid F-16. I agree with you mate:thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Intel Core i7-6700K, @5GHz | Asus Maximus Hero VIII | 2 x eVGA GTX 970 SLI | Kingston Predator 16GB DDR4-3000Mhz | 2 x Samsung 850 PRO 240GB RAID-0 | AOC G2460PG G-SYNC LCD | OCULUS RIFT CV1 VR | THRUSTMASTER HOTAS WARTHOG | CH PRO PEDALS
RvETito Posted March 3, 2008 Posted March 3, 2008 Man, I don't care what anyone says. The F-16 is a beautiful aircraft. From a to e model. From Blk 1 to 60 You wish. With those CFTs and that additional compartment on the top of the fuselage it looks rediculous. The 'clean' version is beautiful indeed. Unfortunately many planes' exterior suffer from the range+avionics disease- look a the MiG-29SMT for example- a fat a$$. "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
RedTiger Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 You wish. With those CFTs and that additional compartment on the top of the fuselage it looks rediculous. The 'clean' version is beautiful indeed. Unfortunately many planes' exterior suffer from the range+avionics disease- look a the MiG-29SMT for example- a fat a$$. I hear ya. I remember reading that the fighter mafia specifically wanted to have as little upgrade room as possible. The legend is that they said to fill all the open spaces in the fuselage with foam to prevent "gold-plated junk" from being installed, all from the fear of what the TAC would do to it. The sad part is that they just added a bunch of ugly stuff to the OUTSIDE of the jet. :doh: Thankfully its still a very capable platform, no matter how it looks.
mvsgas Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 You wish. With those CFTs and that additional compartment on the top of the fuselage it looks rediculous. The 'clean' version is beautiful indeed. Unfortunately many planes' exterior suffer from the range+avionics disease- look a the MiG-29SMT for example- a fat a$$. I don't have to wish my friend, I still love that aircraft. She is not as young as she just to be, but she have been around the block and got more experience. She is not as graceful and skinny as she just to be, but she got more stamina. She got smarter and deadlier. She can still rock your world and shoot down any helicopter you might fly in. Don't hate, maybe one day you will get a ride in one and you will not have to wander, anymore, as they fly pass you "How cool would it be to fly one" and you will know what a mean:D To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
RvETito Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 You sound like you are married to F-16 :D Chill out man, I just said that all the extra features ruin the elegant shape of the original, as an aircraft engineer it is my job to search for aesthetics in every shape of the aircraft. And what's your problem with my helos? Your beloved Flacon easily can initiate a massive forest fire but can it supress it? :D:D:D "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
mvsgas Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 LOL, I'm just messing around. Don't take me to seriously. But, if you ask any old maintainer about their bird ( wish ever aircraft or helo that might be) they will talk about it the same way. No pilot will ever love their bird the same way a maintainer will. Anyway, man I'm mostly just blabbing about the aircraft, don't take me to seriously man. P.S. Lets do a test, find the oldest maintainer where you work. The guy that has been working the airframe the longest, and tell him that any bird is better than his. That you think the aircraft he work is a pig, let see his reaction. He will eather tell you he hates it to or give you a look like he is going to rip you eye out :D, you up for it LOL To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
RvETito Posted March 4, 2008 Posted March 4, 2008 I don't need to talk to anyone- I just have to look into the mirror and say aloud what piece of junk Ka-32 is. In the next second the mirror will probably get broken :D This is how it should be- the more you work on it the more it becomes a part of you and vice versa. "See, to me that's a stupid instrument. It tells what your angle of attack is. If you don't know you shouldn't be flying." - Chuck Yeager, from the back seat of F-15D at age 89. =RvE=
Kusch Posted April 9, 2008 Author Posted April 9, 2008 Polish Viper with CATM-9X :) (author 'Bzik') Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
mvsgas Posted April 9, 2008 Posted April 9, 2008 Cool, thanks. Looks like their starting to get dirty. I did not know they got AIM-9X also, cool. (CATM-9X anyway) To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Boberro Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 Wow it is flying hah :P Nice pics also camo is nice for me. Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
Kusch Posted April 10, 2008 Author Posted April 10, 2008 "C" with conformal fuel tank: Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
Kusch Posted April 10, 2008 Author Posted April 10, 2008 Another: Author "Bzik" Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted April 10, 2008 Posted April 10, 2008 F-16 is MiG-21 on steroids!! :) Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
Flyboy77 Posted April 11, 2008 Posted April 11, 2008 Actually, comparing Polish F-16C/D-52+ to our MiG-29As and ex-Gs is like comparing USAF F-22As with F-16As , absolutely no competition. That's a total over exaggeration, the MiG-29A and F-16C/D are both 4th generation fighters, will the F-16A and F-22 are a generation apart. It’s more like comparing an F-16A to a MiG-35. The difference being 20 year old technology versus the latest but in the same gen airframes.
tflash Posted April 11, 2008 Posted April 11, 2008 Polish Viper with CATM-9X :) (author 'Bzik') Incredible pictures as usual Kusch. The F-16 speaks for itself. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Kusch Posted May 21, 2008 Author Posted May 21, 2008 New delivery. Autor pics "bzik" 2 Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
mvsgas Posted May 21, 2008 Posted May 21, 2008 As always man, you find some amazing pics. bzik good job m8 To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Sundowner.pl Posted May 22, 2008 Posted May 22, 2008 That's a total over exaggeration, the MiG-29A and F-16C/D are both 4th generation fighters, will the F-16A and F-22 are a generation apart. It’s more like comparing an F-16A to a MiG-35. The difference being 20 year old technology versus the latest but in the same gen airframes. That's a bit more complicated, when F-16A was made it was Gen 4 fighter, just like MiG-29 9.12. Although with time it grew and become more complex, they are only in the same generation by name, but far apart in missions capability. F-16C Block 52+ have greater range, better (all) electronic systems, better - (in all aspects) weapons, and can do any mission, while 9.12 is limited to fighter role or light CAS - with dumb bombs or unguided rockets. 9.12 is not very good airframe to make upgrades too, so in Poland, the modifications were minimal (IFF, Radios, GPS), and the same in case of other nations using it. It's actually cheaper to buy new aircraft, than upgrade the 9.12, because if you want to upgrade it, you will have to throw everything away from it, into bare airframe... which still have small fuel tanks. Anyway the generations naming is artificial, while the 5th gen is quite obvious with F-22, and F-35 in it, the 4th and 3rd is a bit hazy. For example, why Saab Viggen is considerate a Gen 3 fighter ? It have everything Gen 4 had. And MiG-31 is not really capable of doing anything except being an interceptor, so it not really belong in 4th generation. Rafale, Typhoon, Newest F-16s, F-15s, F/A-18s and Su-27s, are also not really in the same league as the 1970s aircraft, do they ? It's not generation that matters, its the capability. The F-16C/D Block 52+ is in the same generation as MiG-29 9.12, but with capabilities in mind they are ages apart. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos
Kusch Posted September 18, 2008 Author Posted September 18, 2008 Polish Viper used 20mm canon. Author pics "Bzik": 1 Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
Force_Feedback Posted September 21, 2008 Posted September 21, 2008 Wonder what happened to coating the muzzle vicinity with a (copper based, can't remember) paste for corrosion protection from the powder gasses? Great looking aircraft BTW, how can you even compare something like that with a Mig-29A/G/S/SMT? They're all outdated in comparison, the only Mig-29 that is comparable is the Mig-35. Oh man, the Russians sure can hype old technology ;) Bet the MFI will be 8 years late and outdated from the design stage. Creedence Clearwater Revival:worthy:
Boberro Posted September 22, 2008 Posted September 22, 2008 If believe sellers these F-16s are quite new and good. Who believes then believes ;) Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ
Kusch Posted September 22, 2008 Author Posted September 22, 2008 «RESCUE». How it reads in Polish? "URATUJ" or, "RATUNEK" Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
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