Cycle on AACQ targets

[max22]

Is there a way to step/cycle on AACQ targets ? Thanks

[Silversmith]

I believe AACQ will only be 'seeing' one locked target at a time.. it converts to a STT lock once target is acquired, so no other targets to 'step through'. You have to break the lock and reacquire another one. Only in TWS (maybe LTWS? ) does the radar store multiple active targets that can be stepped through (using the undesignate) button.

[max22]

In a situation where you have several targets in front. Simply declining the current locked and searching for a different one.

[RED]

In a situation where you have several targets in front. Simply declining the current locked and searching for a different one.

 

Not implemented yet.

[Harker]

In a situation where you have several targets in front. Simply declining the current locked and searching for a different one.

Not implemented yet, but a further actuation of AACQ should unlock the currently locked target and disregard it for 10 seconds. If AACQ hasn't locked another target in that time, it'll lock the previous target again.

 

A lot of AACQ logic is still missing, ED recently stated that they're working on it.

[Airhunter]

AACQ doesn't work how it should currently, it locks the first thing it sees. Proper logic is yet to be implemented and yes in the real jet that is possible.

[sk000tch]

Short answer - yes, but what everyone else is referring to is bump acquisition, which is not yet implemented and is the method you would typically use in ACM

 

Mini lecture on proper hornet AA habits (topic has come up a few times, forgive cut and paste tired of explaining but always seems to do someone some good)

 

There are three acquisition modes, TDC depress over L&S is a bad habit. Just take a moment and consider what you are trying to do and press the correct button once. Harder with sim sticks because buttons are not as deliberate, and button mashing tendency of games (not a tendency in aviation, fwiw). Chuck's guide is awesome but it's not super clear about this, the manual is better in this case.

 

Fast acquisition is "standard." Assuming you display radar on right DDI, with cursor over a raw return or L&S, SCS right will command the radar to attempt acquisition. This has come up in the past here in reference to using TDC depress to acquire current L&S, which prompted discussion of precision, how radars work and range accuracy of different duty cycles, precision figures of merit and how radar error + how trackfiles are extrapolated estimates with direct correlation between frame time and accuracy, how important it is to know current frame time and why adjusting aging to be slightly longer than frame time, but search function is good for that.

 

Auto acquisition - entering auto acquisition will attempt to acquire any trackfile under the cursor (this is essentially fast acquisition), or L&S if one exists. Important - Entering AACQ will attempt to acquire to highest priority MSI trackfile. This is why meld procedures are important as it increases track quality. Note undesignate will now cycle through ranked tracks (thank you ED), so if you are in BVR this should accomplish what you are trying to do.

 

Bump acquisition - In BVR AACQ modes, bump will reject current STT and return to search and attempt to acquire a new target. In ACM modes, which is what i assume you are talking about, SCS in the direction of the correct ACM mode (i.e. bump SCS up if in bore) will exit STT and re-enter previous ACM mode, excluding the previous target for a few seconds (length depends on what mode you are in). Bump is not particularly useful in BVR but in ACM modes it is much more so, or if using JHMCS.

 

Manual mode of TDC depress on raw hit enters STT is black boxed in the POH, but while RL reasons why it isn't used don't completely apply to DCS, there are valid reasons in game as well. Obviously a track file or raw hit with long frame time can have significant location error. If you are good enough in the Hornet where you are employing section tactics that rely on AEW MSI trackfiles and silent modes, the awacs dome takes 10s to rotate, and (Not sure if this is modelled), you may have a datalink delay of a few to as much as 8 seconds if the frequency is congested, or more if you are low and missed an update or two.

 

For example, if in silent mode you can press Active option to command radar to make a single sweep, enter AACQ and employ an armraam with no launch warning and at most trigger a brief RWR presence indication (must be in LTWS). DCS pilots fixate, if they are preoccupied by another 18 on their nose.... doing so manually would take substantially longer and be more likely to reveal yourself.

[donkeyrider]

This is very helpful. Thank you.

[webweaver40]

Thanks for taking the time for the explanation, would be nice to have it in plain English and stripped of unnecessary details. We just want to know how to work the dang thing, which in it's current state is very finicky.

 

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[Lorenzo.D]

Il 26/2/2020 at 20:33, sk000tch ha scritto:

 

For example, if in silent mode you can press Active option to command radar to make a single sweep, enter AACQ and employ an armraam with no launch warning and at most trigger a brief RWR presence indication (must be in LTWS). DCS pilots fixate, if they are preoccupied by another 18 on their nose.... doing so manually would take substantially longer and be more likely to reveal yourself.

How? In aacq Is similar to do a stt how you can do and amram launch whithout a warning? Thanks

 

[Ghosty141]

Firstly FACQ/AACQ are broken currently so while @sk000tchs advice is absolutely correct it's currently not a good idea to press SCS right to lock the L&S target. Check my bugreport for details (incl. track file and youtube video). TDC depress is currently your best bet.

Am 7.3.2023 um 12:17 schrieb Lorenzo.D:

How? In aacq Is similar to do a stt how you can do and amram launch whithout a warning? Thanks

I haven't tried it yet but I this MIGHT (!!!) work if you are extremely quick and break lock immediately after firing. In DCS STT should always give an RWR warning. IRL you wouldn't lock a target in RWS mode since TWS is used for engagements. For example once you shoot an AMRAAM the radar automatically (!) switches to TWS AUTO mode, this is currently not implemented. TWS AUTO should work differently than it does now too, check this thread out for some of the details: