FC servers on HL

[SoaringEagle74]

2 - Its more for competitive reasons... most of us have been flying so long that if we see a bandit through externals, we know exactly where they are.

 

Are you talking about a2a or a2g? External views simply add to the functionality of the game and make it more appealing for everyone...thats why Ubisoft and ED incorporated these options into the game!

 

Cheating is when someone has an unfair advantage(such as using a cheating mod) over their opponent but since everyone can use these built-in functions then its definetely not cheating!

 

 

3 - The brief SHOULD give you some indication where to expect enemy activity. Your passive and active sensors also help..

 

Some servers lack even in the briefing department but even if its thorough and people read it its still just a briefing. You can't relly solely on a briefing to successfully finish a mission...especially if its complicated as most online missions are.

 

 

I have always been a proponent of having a "noob" server available to new players... it gives them an opportunity (with labels) to see how their own and others missiles respond (most noobs dont know how to use tacview and LOTU to "look" at why their dying.)

 

The problem is... most major servers/squads can't convince their squad members or constituents to consistently utilize the time for it. It's also an admin problem.

 

So from an "ace" perspective anyone who is not an ace is a noob? Let me inform you that I have read most of the manual and practiced almost all the tuturials..at least in regard to all the planes that interest me. I have also flown over a dozen offline missions...albeit mostly easy ones.

 

The solution is rather simple...have servers specialize in difficulty/settings so that pilots according to their skill level can pick the right missions. When someone learns to swim they are not dropped in the middle of the english channel and told to find their way home...thats idiotic and dangerous. The same applies to flying!

[Frostie]

The solution is rather simple...have servers specialize in difficulty/settings so that pilots according to their skill level can pick the right missions. When someone learns to swim they are not dropped in the middle of the english channel and told to find their way home...thats idiotic and dangerous. The same applies to flying!

Flying online is like being dropped in the english channel, you learn to swim offline it really is that simple.

Good money is payed for servers by experienced Lomac squads who want to fly Lomac the way its supposed to be flown.;)

[GGTharos]

The solution is for you to learn to swim the hard way. I did. Yup. I was dumped into the Mediterranean and told to swim. Same with sims, because unlike an air force, there's few places where you can go to get trained for this sort of thing.

 

I think you will find yourself getting much better MUCH FASTER by doing it this way, believe it or not. It won't take more than 2 weeks of frustration for you to realise you've gotten way beyond the labels and externals phase.

 

And yes, if you use externals to spot me while I'm sneaking up on you it IS cheating.

 

And what Frostie said :D

For this reason a lot of squads have fairly good training programmes.

[GGTharos]

And one more thing; don't think we're telling you this to make you feel like you suck or anything - we're telling you this because we REALLY DO THINK that it is the right way and it WILL make you a better vPilot.

 

In other words, we want good wingmen, and good opposition :)

[S77th-GOYA]

External views simply add to the functionality of the game and make it more appealing for everyone...thats why Ubisoft and ED incorporated these options into the game!

 

Soaring Eagle, debate it all you want but the ones who pay the money to make those servers available for you to play on are going to run settings that they want, not settings that you want.

 

I can assure you that most of the folks you see in HL would not find it more appealing to have externals and/or labels. In fact, if I remember correctly, the 169th server ran for quite a while with externals but changed after repeated requests to turn them off.

[S77th-konkussion]

Step up & start your own server if you don't like it. I don't know who this "majority" you claim to speak for is-but it ain't the "majority" of the guys in Lomac HL.

[SoaringEagle74]

No disrespect intended but if you guys wanna fly with graphics maxxed out and realistic settings maxxed out maybe you should have joined the air force academy and be flying for real rather than pretending to know everything and locking the rest of the paying lockon clients out. Seriously, this quite disrespectful and arrogant imho!

 

No doubt, the people who pay for the servers can do as they please but in the long run the interest for fc will die away. Another thing that is lacking in my opinion is no central fc server such as ubi had with 1.02.

 

I simply don't have the time or interest to adapate to others likings so I think I am going to stick to offline play for the near future where I can control how I play the game.

[GGTharos]

Well, we don't have the interest of adapting to YOUR likings. :) That's just how it is :)

I think it's more arrogant of YOU to tell everyone ELSE how to play their game.

[Boberro]

Eagle 74 - there are much servers, if you wanna fly with labels and all set to easy nobody stops you - create server on HL and count that somebody will enter (I don't count kids who ask "how to turn on engines", I count advanced players). Graphics... well FC has totally shitty graphic engine (performance) so it results of that you can't play all max and have good FPS...

 

PS. AFAIK UBI doesn't have any dedicated server for Lock on so their poor client isn't better than also poor HyperLobby...

[mvsgas]

SoaringEagle74, I'm sorry sir, but you come to a community, tell them you don't like it and then tell them your are going to leave because they won't please your needs. Are they suppose to bow to you and do your will? Like many people said, you can deal with it or create your own and then, deal with it. Otherwise, good luck sir and sorry they did not attend to all your wishes, my dear queen( my wife came up with that one, ROFLMAO). Sorry guys, I just don't think any body should go to somebody's house and tell them how to maintain it without doing anything to help. My two cent and sorry to be rude.

[S77th-GOYA]

Seriously, this quite disrespectful and arrogant imho!

 

Is there anything else the LO community owes you? Maybe we should buy you a new video card out of respect?

 

Last advice:

Stop whining and start practicing without externals and labels

[Frostie]

No disrespect intended but if you guys wanna fly with graphics maxxed out and realistic settings maxxed out maybe you should have joined the air force academy and be flying for real rather than pretending to know everything and locking the rest of the paying lockon clients out. Seriously, this quite disrespectful and arrogant imho!

Nobody is locked out - if you want reduced graphic settings the good people of this community have given advice how to go about this, given to you with total respect and no arrogance on their part.

[graywo1fg]

Don't worry guys. he will finally realize hopefully that he is the one that needs to adapt.... if not then there is nothing more we can do...

[NotiA10]

i could be wrong but i believe that there might be an easy way, through editing some of his grafics.cfg file settings to not have any probs with higher settings. anyone know how to do it ? I remebmer seeing something but am now sure where and how it is done.

[graywo1fg]

we already showed him that.... :P

[Glowing_Amraam]

Regarding graphics; It's the year 2008 guys, you WILL fall behind if you don't upgrade your pc. :)

 

I havent experienced low fps (besides some over-the-top scenes i created to play around with :P ) for the last 2-3 years with lock on.

[SoaringEagle74]

Well, we don't have the interest of adapting to YOUR likings. :) That's just how it is :)

I think it's more arrogant of YOU to tell everyone ELSE how to play their game.

 

I am not telling anyone how they should play so don't put words in my mouth. All I am saying, and I believe I have made myself crystal clear, is that there should be servers catering to all skill levels and not just for the elite running with super fast computers.

[golfsierra2]

 

I simply don't have the time or interest to adapate to others likings so I think I am going to stick to offline play for the near future where I can control how I play the game.

 

Now wisdom is speaking out of this words !

[3Sqn_Fudd]

Doh! it is 2008! Anyone written a bank check lately? I always hate that.....lol

 

 

Soaring Eagle... Listen, we understand the frustration. Lockon is a HARD on computers and it is undoubtedly hard to learn when you're new. Keep playing offline, incrementally take the views away, incrementally make the AI harder, incrementally engage harder targets... and then pop on a Ventrillo or TS.... Fly some online and you'll be an effective "ace settings" pilot.

 

Hardware wise... keep as much set to low as you can...

[SoaringEagle74]

SoaringEagle74, I'm sorry sir, but you come to a community, tell them you don't like it and then tell them your are going to leave because they won't please your needs. Are they suppose to bow to you and do your will? Like many people said, you can deal with it or create your own and then, deal with it. Otherwise, good luck sir and sorry they did not attend to all your wishes, my dear queen( my wife came up with that one, ROFLMAO). Sorry guys, I just don't think any body should go to somebody's house and tell them how to maintain it without doing anything to help. My two cent and sorry to be rude.

 

If I had more computer knowledge and a few spare bucks I would certainly create my own server rather than have to beg for the obvious!

 

Thanks for your 2 cents though.

[SoaringEagle74]

Doh! it is 2008! Anyone written a bank check lately? I always hate that.....lol

 

 

Soaring Eagle... Listen, we understand the frustration. Lockon is a HARD on computers and it is undoubtedly hard to learn when you're new. Keep playing offline, incrementally take the views away, incrementally make the AI harder, incrementally engage harder targets... and then pop on a Ventrillo or TS.... Fly some online and you'll be an effective "ace settings" pilot.

 

Hardware wise... keep as much set to low as you can...

 

Thanks. Thats what I plan on doing...in fact, thats what I have been doing for over a year. Unfortunately, I don't get to play as often as I would like due to other responsibilities but eventually I should get good at it.:)

 

Yeah. I could definitely use a better graphics card and probably a better computer but in the meantime I am just going to edit the scenery files as others have suggested.

[Frostie]

Yeah. I could definitely use a better graphics card and probably a better computer but in the meantime I am just going to edit the scenery files as others have suggested.

Good stuff and get on TS/Ventrilo next time your online and wing up they're is a real friendly bunch of guys out there willing to help out.

[FA_Crazy-Canuck]

Having sufferred through learning curves playing IL2 and LOMAC I would not want to fly any other way but full realism. I learned by getting on comms with experienced pilots, ask questions, (at the appropriate times), and listen carefully to what they are doing, and above all that prepare to be killed many times for about 3 months!:thumbup:

 

After learning from others you will enjoy the full realism settings as well and wonder how you ever played with tags on etc.

 

IL2 being a larger community has servers that offer tags etc, the size of this community lends itself to the hardcore pilots who enjoy immersion. Change your settings as suggested by Viper and get on comms. You will find most pilots helpful and speed up the learning curve.

 

My 2 cents.

[RedTiger]

@SoaringEagle74

 

It sounds as if you should ask why it is you want to play online. If the greater challenge from fighting human opponents and playing cooperatively with others is really important to you, then you should probably learn play their way. Unless the new guy has some title or authority, rarely are people ever going to change things just because the new guy doesn't like them that way. Complaining on a forum where the odds are stacked against your opinion never helped the new guy either. ;)

 

Don't take any of this like I'm some big proponent of multiplayer, I stopped playing online games circa 2002 and will probably never go back. You're just not going to convince anyone of anything the way your going about it. :)

[TucksonSonny]

@GA,

2008 Eeeh, I will probably upgrade on 29 February 2009 (the release of BS :D)

I am still waiting for the upcoming AMD killer quad PC (I don’t think it will be the hopeless shit-phenom of 2008 :D)

 

@soaringeagle74,

Some vpilots out there have over 1000 online ace kills.

 

Do you understand what you are asking here?

Even lockon first-week-noobs will NOT accept labels! ;)