Rudder Elevation Axis and FLIR ZOOM are not using absolute value of axis.

[DmitriKozlowsky]

Rudder Elevation Axis and FLIR ZOOM are not using absolute value of axis.

 

I map to axis slider (with or without slider option).

 

But it does not use absolute value. It either points radar all the way down or all the way up. In FLIR it either zooms in all the way, or zooms all the way out.

[jeff64]

Yes because in the real aircraft, it is an autocentered axis, like a rudder.

 

As long as you are in the positive range, it will send the input.

If you return the axis to the center, the input will stop.

[Razor18]

Rudder Elevation Axis and FLIR ZOOM are not using absolute value of axis.

 

I map to axis slider (with or without slider option).

 

But it does not use absolute value. It either points radar all the way down or all the way up. In FLIR it either zooms in all the way, or zooms all the way out.

 

You are right, and it's been mentioned in a lot of other topics.

 

Try to map the non-axis version of the same function to any 2 (or 4) way switch that returns to center. Its name is NOT Radar Elevation, but Antenna Elevation (adjustment?).

[DmitriKozlowsky]

Well OK. After some frustration and clue from this board, I think I have it. A spring loaded axis is required.

Dear ED. This is seriously bad implementation. Just make it same as A-10C.

Edited May 3, 2020 by DmitriKozlowsky

[Phil C6]

Well OK. After some frustration and clue from this board, I think I have it. A spring loaded axis is required.

Dear ED. This is seriously bad implementation. Just make it same as A-10C.

 

 

Hi it seems ED maked a realistic implementation but yes almost of us haven't spring loaded axis so for the gameplay it should be great to can choose between realistic axis or more usable axis (like F16, F15...) for hotas without spring

 

 

Best regards

Edited May 3, 2020 by Phil C6

[DmitriKozlowsky]

I have it with X56 Rhino (Dark grey Logitech), I have ignored them thus far as they were deployed for space simulation , like Star Citizen, where there are realistic zero G freefall RCS controls. But I have no interest in those games. I am now experimenting with spring loaded axis in DCS. But they are too coarse IMHO. In DCS Hornet giving it an impulse is what nudges the radar vertical notch up/down, and TPOD zoom +/-. But with both there is either over pitch or over zoom in either direction. It is not necessary. Sensors, at least in DCS, work best when mapped to axis as absolutes. I think this holds true for X56 and higher end HOTAS from THrustmaster and VKD. If nothing else, max deflection of these little 'mini sticks' , of which there is 1 each on both stick and throttle , should be mappable as key commands or buttons without need to reprogramme them via system drivers.

The thing is that Litening II implementation in DCS: A-10C is very good. Excellent in fact. Many of us have mapped its functions to our HOTAS, and have muscle memory in our fingers. This should be the template for all LiteningII TPOD DCS wide. Maybe with few minor changes to localize pod to specific aircraft. I have done that with A-10C and AV-8B. I will do as much for TPOD in F-16C . But right now F-16C in DCS is far far too slow FPS wise.

I like the ED's philosophy on implementation of Garmin NS430. Controls for it are independent of module within which it is running. So same bindings can be used across modules. I am careful to assign controls to Garmin that do not interfere with HOTAS bindings for the aircraft module. To the extent possible, same thing should be done to LiteningII.

It is not unrealistic. In real world, ANY aircraft can use Litening family, and Sniper family of pods provided that there is Link-16 NATO compatible data bus and MFCCD display , even an old fashioned TV. Link-16 is just civilian Firewire standard with secure communications options.

Theoretically, and actually proven by a real world experiment. An old P-51 , was modified with power generation and communication bus, then equipped with military grade Embedded GPS Inertial NAV, a targeting pod with laser designator, Pave penny laser spotter, and wing rails capable of carrying Hellfire, Hellfire II, and Brimstone missiles. Making P-51 a A-51.

With some cheap mods, an I-16 can carry NS430 and LiteningII.

DCS could also benefit from availability of laser guided 2.75" FFAR and laser guided ZUNI rockets. Both are real world weapons available on international defense market. But I digress into wishlist.

 

 

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Edited May 4, 2020 by DmitriKozlowsky

[kengou]

It works perfectly fine assigning it to a two-way switch or hat. I haven’t noticed any problem getting the elevation where I want it. Not sure why everyone seems to want it on an axis so badly.

[Phil C6]

It works perfectly fine assigning it to a two-way switch or hat. I haven’t noticed any problem getting the elevation where I want it. Not sure why everyone seems to want it on an axis so badly.

 

 

Hi, i thunk about this solution but personnally all buttons have already a function so i prefer use axis for that but thx for your advice

 

 

Best regards

[Brute4ce]

FA-18 Radar Elevation / TGP zoom axis beheavior inconsistency

 

My issue is that the WinWing Throttle Z axis (spring loaded) designed for Radar Antenna Elevation works perfectly for Radar Antenna Elevation but my TGP zoom is always zoomed in to 9 (direct mode) if set to center. Configuring it as a slider doesn't solve this.

 

 

Update:

I'd to re-calibrate, configure a deadzone and set a rather high curve value. Now it's working.

Edited May 17, 2020 by Brute4ce
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