Training campaigns worth it?

[Passero]

Last weekend I bought the A10-C and went through all the training missions so have a very basic understanding of the aircraft now...

I did create a basic mission myself to try out the things I learned.

 

I am wondering if the different training campaign DLCs are worth it? I know they don't teach you but I assume they have missions with increased difficulty and am hoping these missions will help me try out some of the concepts...

[Pantera93]

I bought the basic campaign hoping to have an immersive training experience, but it turns out it's a serie of "qualification exams" and it requires you to read the manual and already know how the plane works.

I stand to be corrected, but that is what I felt from playing the first 3/4 missions.

 

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[Ralphk]

Yes they are worth it as they force ubto read all of the manual and train on all aspects before hitting the battlefield

 

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[Ramsay]

I am wondering if the different training campaign DLCs are worth it?

Only if you want to compare yourself to the RL qualification tests.

I know they don't teach you but I assume they have missions with increased difficulty and am hoping these missions will help me try out some of the concepts...

The Maple Flag "qualification" campaigns focus on different skill sets i.e. basic flying, weapons employment i.e. weapons systems,. and JTAC.

 

They are not 'teaching' campaigns, but pilot evaluation flights based off USAF Aircrew Evaluation Criteria and real 'check' rides.

 

They are a series of tasks that must be performed to a set 'standard' i.e.

 

• Altitude +/- 200 feet

• Airspeed +/- 5%

• Course +/- 5 degrees/3 NM (whichever is greater)

 

Although you can learn from the missions, they are really there to check if you are skilful enough to pass the 'real' test after becoming competent in DCS.

 

It's best to have:

 

• read the DCS A-10C manual

• completed the default DCS training missions

• flown a few combat missions or one of the campaigns

 

to get the most benefit from the A-10C 'Qualification' campaigns.

 

Check out Baltic Dragon's "Enemy Within 3.0"

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=621

 

and / or Ranger79's "Piercing Fury" (now free on the user files) - unfortunately mission 2 is bugged but you should be able to fly the other missions as standalones.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=518

 

These are "full blown" realistic campaigns, so expect them to be challenging but IMHO, they do have some grading for difficulty as they progress.

 

I'm not sure how well the default "Georgian Hammer" campaign works in 2.5.6.x or if MadDog-IC's updated files are still good, there are however many A-10C missions and campaigns available in the user section.

Edited September 24, 2020 by Ramsay

[Passero]

mmm ok, interesting.

In that case I don't think they are for me... Although I've done the trainings and went to the manual, some section a couple of times.

Don't think I'll enjoy these types of missions...

[jasonbirder]

Definately worth it...i've got & flown all 3 (Basic, Advanced & Tactical Training)

Was a brilliant learning experience flying them starting from Ground Handling & Start up to advanced multi-element missions.

Good replayability - as they're great refreshers to help agaisnt "skill erosion" if you haven't flown for a while...

[hansangb]

Last weekend I bought the A10-C and went through all the training missions so have a very basic understanding of the aircraft now...

I did create a basic mission myself to try out the things I learned.

 

I am wondering if the different training campaign DLCs are worth it? I know they don't teach you but I assume they have missions with increased difficulty and am hoping these missions will help me try out some of the concepts...

 

 

I would also recommend Bunyap's YouTube channel. The first few are A10A but still good. The rest are A10C. HIGHLY recommended

 

[Jedrzej]

Hi

 

 

In Advanced & Tactical Training You have x2 campaigs in fact.

 

 

Advanced Practice and Advanced qualification. Tactical Training Practice and Tactical Training qualification. In Practice You start in the air and, as name says, You just practice. When You pass practice then You can jump to qualification - start on ramp - and trys to pass qualification. Some times the practice mission is harder then qualification :)

[Moric]

@Passero

If it’s the three qualification campaigns you references to then…

 

It’s depend upon what you want to achieve.

 

If you want to learn the basic to fire the gun and drop some bombs on targets in a relative simple mission. Then no! It’s not the right tool IMO.

 

If you want to have structure in your training from crawling to eventually master the A-10 some day then yes absolutely.

 

All three campaigns have practices missions for every step with instructions. They have pdf documentation for every step so you know what to study in each step.

 

As a new pilot in the A-10 and other, the amount of information can be overwhelming. IMO Those campaigns are a great tool to get you to focus on the right information for your current level and qualification and give you structure for your training path.

 

But remember they do not magically put information in our heads. We have to do the hard work of studying and practicing… As with anything in life, there is seldom a shortcut for knowledge.

It is very easy to jump to fare ahead of ourselves and fail on the basics.

 

I hope you can use it and it was the information you were looking for… and have fun :)

[Moxica]

NB! They are not training at all.
Just a set of tests often based on a set of rules set by the author, and you have to figure out what they are. Mainly by trial and error.
I don't see why anyone would need these.