sharkfin61 Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 After purchasing the A-10C "THUNDERBOLT" / "WARTHOG" VHF / UHF PANEL" from pcflights.com, I slipped, stumbled and fell over the spacing of the holes for the channel selector rotaries. Any suggestion for 12 or 10 position rotary switches with a baseplate diameter, smaller than 1 inch/ 25mm? Or maybe there is another solution? Loads do it on the fly! Royal Bavarian Airforce all the way RIG: RYZEN 7 5800X3D~ ZOTAC 4080 Super ~ AORUS X570S Elite AX ~64 GB Corsair Venegance DDR-4 3600 ~ BeQuiet AIO Silent loop 2 360 watercooled ~ Samsung 890 Pro M.2 (2TB) + 870 EVO (1TB) SSD ~ WIN 10 64-bit ~ AOC 31.5" Gaming 144Hz Display ~ DelanClip@TrackIR 5 ~ TM Warthog no.2 ~Saitek rudder pedals~ 2 TM MFDs on 2nd 27"display ~ Buddyfox A-10 UFC ~ CDU/AAP panel via DCSBios ~ ARC-210 (soldering WIP) ~ QUEST 3
crash test pilot Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 I use rotary encoders - they are 10 by 12 mm in size.
sharkfin61 Posted October 10, 2020 Author Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) Like those? Driven by an Arduino? Edited October 10, 2020 by sharkfin61 Loads do it on the fly! Royal Bavarian Airforce all the way RIG: RYZEN 7 5800X3D~ ZOTAC 4080 Super ~ AORUS X570S Elite AX ~64 GB Corsair Venegance DDR-4 3600 ~ BeQuiet AIO Silent loop 2 360 watercooled ~ Samsung 890 Pro M.2 (2TB) + 870 EVO (1TB) SSD ~ WIN 10 64-bit ~ AOC 31.5" Gaming 144Hz Display ~ DelanClip@TrackIR 5 ~ TM Warthog no.2 ~Saitek rudder pedals~ 2 TM MFDs on 2nd 27"display ~ Buddyfox A-10 UFC ~ CDU/AAP panel via DCSBios ~ ARC-210 (soldering WIP) ~ QUEST 3
agrasyuk Posted October 10, 2020 Posted October 10, 2020 (edited) Look into grayhill rotaries, something like this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/121535539530 Make sure you get the throw angle you need, can be 30, 36 or other degrees. Edited October 11, 2020 by agrasyuk Anton. My pit build thread . Simple and cheap UFC project
sharkfin61 Posted October 10, 2020 Author Posted October 10, 2020 Thanks a kot, wilco. Have to make the decision of I start to lesen something completely News, linke arduino, or use the bb-32 board that i already have. Loads do it on the fly! Royal Bavarian Airforce all the way RIG: RYZEN 7 5800X3D~ ZOTAC 4080 Super ~ AORUS X570S Elite AX ~64 GB Corsair Venegance DDR-4 3600 ~ BeQuiet AIO Silent loop 2 360 watercooled ~ Samsung 890 Pro M.2 (2TB) + 870 EVO (1TB) SSD ~ WIN 10 64-bit ~ AOC 31.5" Gaming 144Hz Display ~ DelanClip@TrackIR 5 ~ TM Warthog no.2 ~Saitek rudder pedals~ 2 TM MFDs on 2nd 27"display ~ Buddyfox A-10 UFC ~ CDU/AAP panel via DCSBios ~ ARC-210 (soldering WIP) ~ QUEST 3
RightStuff Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) Hi Joe, I's use rotary encoders oder potis as well for the VHF/UHF panel. Either the cheap one you already found by yourself or the real good stuff from Grayhill. Edited October 11, 2020 by RightStuff
sharkfin61 Posted October 11, 2020 Author Posted October 11, 2020 Great, so maybe we will have to talk about the Arduino sketch if the ARC210 is implemented in the Tankkiller. I was also looking for a fitting 4’‘ green display as I read the other das the real one is a 128x64 Pixel Monitor. As I‘m running out of HDMI and Displayports, can the Arduino hardware/software Project a picture from the sim data? Gesendet von iPad mit Tapatalk Loads do it on the fly! Royal Bavarian Airforce all the way RIG: RYZEN 7 5800X3D~ ZOTAC 4080 Super ~ AORUS X570S Elite AX ~64 GB Corsair Venegance DDR-4 3600 ~ BeQuiet AIO Silent loop 2 360 watercooled ~ Samsung 890 Pro M.2 (2TB) + 870 EVO (1TB) SSD ~ WIN 10 64-bit ~ AOC 31.5" Gaming 144Hz Display ~ DelanClip@TrackIR 5 ~ TM Warthog no.2 ~Saitek rudder pedals~ 2 TM MFDs on 2nd 27"display ~ Buddyfox A-10 UFC ~ CDU/AAP panel via DCSBios ~ ARC-210 (soldering WIP) ~ QUEST 3
crash test pilot Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 My cdu-display is a ili-9486 3.5" display and is fed by dcs-bios, so it should work. We will see.
Sokol1_br Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 For certain controls you can use an rotary switch as Encoder, removing their stop for turn freely. The advantage of rotary switches is their defined position and tactile feedback (click) when changing positions. Instead wire then as normal buttons (5, 10 buttons positions) follow "binary truth table ", and use just 2 buttons positions, one in clockwise turn, an other in counterclockwise turn. http://www.737ng.co.uk/switch_as_encoder.pdf This will be convenient for some controls. Pre-requisite: the (USB) controller need support encoders.
sharkfin61 Posted October 11, 2020 Author Posted October 11, 2020 (edited) Thank you for your helpful inputs. I think, I will put my decision un hold, until the ARC 210 is finally implemented. Still have to take some time for the current projects, as I will have to re-do my CDU again from scratch (new baseboard, new switches without integrated LEDs, ...). But I feel more and more the need to befriend me with the Arduino code as the sim parts become more and more. So, maybe the RS485 solution could be a future writing on my wall. Edited October 11, 2020 by sharkfin61 Loads do it on the fly! Royal Bavarian Airforce all the way RIG: RYZEN 7 5800X3D~ ZOTAC 4080 Super ~ AORUS X570S Elite AX ~64 GB Corsair Venegance DDR-4 3600 ~ BeQuiet AIO Silent loop 2 360 watercooled ~ Samsung 890 Pro M.2 (2TB) + 870 EVO (1TB) SSD ~ WIN 10 64-bit ~ AOC 31.5" Gaming 144Hz Display ~ DelanClip@TrackIR 5 ~ TM Warthog no.2 ~Saitek rudder pedals~ 2 TM MFDs on 2nd 27"display ~ Buddyfox A-10 UFC ~ CDU/AAP panel via DCSBios ~ ARC-210 (soldering WIP) ~ QUEST 3
crash test pilot Posted October 11, 2020 Posted October 11, 2020 One tip against frustration: DONT fall for the cheap max487 chips from china. I ebay'd a 50-pack for 9.99$ and only 1 (ONE!) survived. I bought new ones from Reichelt for around 2€ per piece and all are working fine for over a year now.
sharkfin61 Posted October 12, 2020 Author Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) One tip against frustration: DONT fall for the cheap max487 chips from china. I ebay'd a 50-pack for 9.99$ and only 1 (ONE!) survived. I bought new ones from Reichelt for around 2€ per piece and all are working fine for over a year now. Thank you, will take that in account. Does anyone have experience with AZDelivery boards? Edited October 12, 2020 by sharkfin61 Loads do it on the fly! Royal Bavarian Airforce all the way RIG: RYZEN 7 5800X3D~ ZOTAC 4080 Super ~ AORUS X570S Elite AX ~64 GB Corsair Venegance DDR-4 3600 ~ BeQuiet AIO Silent loop 2 360 watercooled ~ Samsung 890 Pro M.2 (2TB) + 870 EVO (1TB) SSD ~ WIN 10 64-bit ~ AOC 31.5" Gaming 144Hz Display ~ DelanClip@TrackIR 5 ~ TM Warthog no.2 ~Saitek rudder pedals~ 2 TM MFDs on 2nd 27"display ~ Buddyfox A-10 UFC ~ CDU/AAP panel via DCSBios ~ ARC-210 (soldering WIP) ~ QUEST 3
crash test pilot Posted October 12, 2020 Posted October 12, 2020 I have ordered several times from them, had no problems so far. Once an item i ordered got lost in the mail, four days later i received a replacement.
hrnet940 Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 Check out Leo Bodnar sim equipment here: http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/ I have his BBI-32 for switch inputs and it is very easy Plug and Play. I am looking at getting his BBI-64, a few, to use for all of my switch inputs. They also handle his rotary encoders. Wayne Wilson AKA: hrnet940 Alienware Aurora R3, i7 3820 3.5GHz(4.2GHz setting) processor, EVGA Nvidia RTX 2070 8GB Graphics, 16GB Ram, 1TB SSD.
TonyZ Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 I have a switchbox I made using a Bodnar BUO836X board and it has 2- dual rotary encoder as well as an 8way hat and numerous switches and rotary pot knobs...The box works fine in the original A-10C aircraft and all functions are seen by the controls setup page in DCS as well as the aircraft itself....However after picking up the NEW A-10C II aircraft and setting up all controls the box is still seen by the controls options setup page in the new plane but nothing is seen in the aircraft except the 8 way hat function...all other controls have no effect in the actual aircraft even though the controls setup screen sees all buttons switches and rotary knobs just fine.....at this point I am stumped and wondered if others are having similar issues with the new A-10C II plane not seeing their Bodnar controllers. I have already tried copying my control input luas from A-10C to A-10C ii with no effect.. Made no difference. both in my saved games folder and in the main program directory. Is the New A-10C II input just broken?
Pkdos Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 This is posible? https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4001165663413.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.702871e3xNK3zB&algo_pvid=6da35fb6-fa23-4ddd-9d9c-a08a3e7c7fc0&algo_expid=6da35fb6-fa23-4ddd-9d9c-a08a3e7c7fc0-58&btsid=0b0a01f816026622695096161e18ce&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_
lesthegrngo Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 This is posible? https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4001165663413.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.702871e3xNK3zB&algo_pvid=6da35fb6-fa23-4ddd-9d9c-a08a3e7c7fc0&algo_expid=6da35fb6-fa23-4ddd-9d9c-a08a3e7c7fc0-58&btsid=0b0a01f816026622695096161e18ce&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_,searchweb201603_ This is in theory a 12 position switch, but in practice it is a 4 way 3 position switch. However it can be modified by connecting all four inner contacts together OUTSIDE of the casing, then opening up the switch and cutting off 3 of the four sprung contacts. When you open the switch up, be careful not to lose the two tiny ball bearings or the spring that works them, otherwise your switch will no longer have the detents to hold the positions. The best thing is to try not to let the rotary part with the contacts and the top (black) housing come apart, but if they do look for the positioning cut out that helps you get the balls and spring back in the right place. It is not difficult, but it is fiddly, and I have done it on a load of mine successfully - though not without losing a ball or two in the process. Les
sharkfin61 Posted October 15, 2020 Author Posted October 15, 2020 I have a switchbox I made using a Bodnar BUO836X board and it has 2- dual rotary encoder as well as an 8way hat and numerous switches and rotary pot knobs...The box works fine in the original A-10C aircraft and all functions are seen by the controls setup page in DCS as well as the aircraft itself....However after picking up the NEW A-10C II aircraft and setting up all controls the box is still seen by the controls options setup page in the new plane but nothing is seen in the aircraft except the 8 way hat function...all other controls have no effect in the actual aircraft even though the controls setup screen sees all buttons switches and rotary knobs just fine.....at this point I am stumped and wondered if others are having similar issues with the new A-10C II plane not seeing their Bodnar controllers. I have already tried copying my control input luas from A-10C to A-10C ii with no effect.. Made no difference. both in my saved games folder and in the main program directory. Is the New A-10C II input just broken?As I read, you should program your new key files from scratch. Other people had the same issues. Loads do it on the fly! Royal Bavarian Airforce all the way RIG: RYZEN 7 5800X3D~ ZOTAC 4080 Super ~ AORUS X570S Elite AX ~64 GB Corsair Venegance DDR-4 3600 ~ BeQuiet AIO Silent loop 2 360 watercooled ~ Samsung 890 Pro M.2 (2TB) + 870 EVO (1TB) SSD ~ WIN 10 64-bit ~ AOC 31.5" Gaming 144Hz Display ~ DelanClip@TrackIR 5 ~ TM Warthog no.2 ~Saitek rudder pedals~ 2 TM MFDs on 2nd 27"display ~ Buddyfox A-10 UFC ~ CDU/AAP panel via DCSBios ~ ARC-210 (soldering WIP) ~ QUEST 3
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