FlyString Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Hello, After the latest update I encounter refueling/rearming problems with the Su-33 and MIG-29 aircrafts (which I tested so far). Immediately after respawn the refueling / rearming is working as it should, but after taking off, flying a while, and landing on the spawning airport, other airport, carrier, the refueling / rearming will not work anymore. This is occurring both in multiplayer or my missions, and before you ask, I always perform this operation with engines off, canopy open, etc. Repairing the game files didn't solve the problem.
Flappie Posted October 13, 2020 Posted October 13, 2020 Hi. What are the maps and the airfields you've tested so far? Do you have any track or mission to share? ---
FlyString Posted October 13, 2020 Author Posted October 13, 2020 I am playing on Caucasus map, not having a explanatory track but I am about to have one and send / upload it here. Random airports, doesn't matter!
chazzbarramundi Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 This is a widespread issue as everyone on my server currently running Caucasus is having the same issue. I also just tested this on Persian Gulf and again, can't rearm or refuel after taking off in the Su33, Su-27, MiG 29S and F-15. This is affecting stable version and our ability to complete missions..
Flappie Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 I'm not able to reproduce your issue. I've just tested the following aircraft on different Caucasus airfields (current OB/stable 2.5.6.55960): Su-25T A-10A Su-27 Su-33 MiG-29A F-15C I took off from runway, and flew a loop. I flew a bit further with the F-15C. After aircraft had landed, canopy was opened and engines were completely shut down, I was able to rearm. ---
chazzbarramundi Posted October 14, 2020 Posted October 14, 2020 Hi Flappie, The issue occurs when landing at a different runway to the one you had taken off from. Thanks,
rayrayblues Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Hi Flappie, The issue occurs when landing at a different runway to the one you had taken off from. Thanks, Is the airport coalition set to your color? (red or blue) Neutral fields won't necessarily respond to REA/REF requests. You don't have to shut down or open canopy either. You can do a hot REA/REF just make sure that the airfield or FARP is the same coalition and make sure that you are using the proper radio channel or intercom. SLAVA UKRAINI MoBo - ASUS 990FX R2 Sabertooth, CPU - AMD FX 9590 @4.7Gb. No OC RAM - GSkill RipJaws DDR3 32 Gb @2133 MHZ, GPU - EVGA GeForce GTX 1660Ti 6Gb DDR5 OC'd, Core 180MHz, Memory 800MHz Game drive - Samsung 980 M.2 EVO 1Tb SSD, OS Drive - 860 EVO 500Gb SATA SSD, Win10 Pro 22H2 Controls - Thrustmaster T-Flight HOTAS X, Monitor - LG 32" 1920 X 1080, PSU - Prestige ATX-PR800W PSU
Flappie Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Is the airport coalition set to your color? (red or blue) Neutral fields won't necessarily respond to REA/REF requests. You don't have to shut down or open canopy either. You can do a hot REA/REF just make sure that the airfield or FARP is the same coalition and make sure that you are using the proper radio channel or intercom. For some of the aircraft mentioned above, you need to cut off engines and open the canopy (I believe all FC3 aircraft need this). I'm sure about it because I tested it yesterday. ---
FlyString Posted October 15, 2020 Author Posted October 15, 2020 Hey, the issue is only present in the latest version of DCS, it is affecting both OpenBeta and Release version, have them installed and tried on both. The canopy is open, engines off, not working on the latest version no matter what I do.
Flappie Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 Can you please share a mission for which ths issue happens? ---
chazzbarramundi Posted October 15, 2020 Posted October 15, 2020 For some of the aircraft mentioned above, you need to cut off engines and open the canopy (I believe all FC3 aircraft need this). I'm sure about it because I tested it yesterday. Yep, I'm aware of that and tried all the mentioned advice and still many people are reporting the same issue including myself. I suggest you try taking off from any runway with any FC3 low fidelity aircraft and land at another runway. You will not be able to re-arm, re-fuel or repair as you will not get a "Copy" indication back from the ground crew.
FlyString Posted October 16, 2020 Author Posted October 16, 2020 Yep, I'm aware of that and tried all the mentioned advice and still many people are reporting the same issue including myself. I suggest you try taking off from any runway with any FC3 low fidelity aircraft and land at another runway. You will not be able to re-arm, re-fuel or repair as you will not get a "Copy" indication back from the ground crew. Yes, this is exactly what I am experiencing, and Flappie, I cannot upload the .trk because it is larger than 5 MB, you need to fly a while and land on a different airport before you encounter the bug. If you have the latest updates installed for your DCS version, and take your SU-33 (for example) to another airport, the bug will be there. You ask for rearming/refueling and the ground crew will not answer back, and the operation will not start. At least now I know to not re-install the game, because the bug is affecting multiple players.
Flappie Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 If you have the latest updates installed for your DCS version, and take your SU-33 (for example) to another airport, the bug will be there. Well, that's not what you said initially: Immediately after respawn the refueling / rearming is working as it should, but after taking off, flying a while, and landing on the spawning airport, other airport, carrier, the refueling / rearming will not work anymore. (and I spent an hour trying to reproduce the bug on the spawning airfield ) I'll make a track of a Batumi-Senaki this evening. ---
FlyString Posted October 16, 2020 Author Posted October 16, 2020 Yes Flappie, sorry for that! Anyways, after you go to Senaki, go bak to the spawning one, see if it works, because here it doesn't.
Flappie Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) I've encountered the bug, "at last" if I may say so. Here's what I did: Took off hot from Gelendzhik with a Su-27 Landed at Sukhumi Parked and asked for refuel and rearm Refueled OK Rearmed OK Took off from Sukhumi Called Gelendzhik for inbound, got a response, then was asked to "contact the tower" Called tower for landing: no response (?) Landed at Gelendzhik Parked and asked for refuel and rearm: no response. Moved to another parking spot and tried again: no response. Here's a track and a video (forgive my poor Su-27 skills, I've been ignoring her for years). Su27_no_refuel_at_spawn_after_2_landings.trk Edited October 16, 2020 by Flappie changed video link (video was too long for YouTube) ---
FlyString Posted October 16, 2020 Author Posted October 16, 2020 Thank you for confirming this, at least now I am sure I do not have to re-install the game! And sorry for the misguidance I provided, was unintentional!
Flappie Posted October 16, 2020 Posted October 16, 2020 I've just tested the same thing with a shorter route (Novo - Gelendzhik - Novo) and the Mirage. No issue. The bug seems to be only affecting FC3 aircraft. ---
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 17, 2020 ED Team Posted October 17, 2020 Reported thank you all 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
Flappie Posted November 23, 2020 Posted November 23, 2020 I've replayed my track today with the new open beta: this issue has been fixed. Thank you ED. :thumbup: ---
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