IRIAF F-14. What is confirmed?

[Schmidtfire]

There has been several discussions about Iran version of F-14.

With the soon to be released F-14A, just wondering if anything has been confirmed in that regard?

Livery, possible changes to cockpit/systems or "experimental" weapons like Fakour-90 or possibly russsian missiles such as R-73.

 

I understand that this might not be a priority, just wondering as I find it very interesting. It adds for a lethal Redfor threat and fits really well with the Persian Gulf map :)

[81banana]

IRIAF F-14. What is confirmed?

 

Iranian version of A shares the features with the US version in DCS. The only thing is that 14 Iranian Liveries will be published default. No Fakoor, etc. Weapon systems and cockpit instruments are equal.

 

 

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[draconus]

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[sublime]

There has been several discussions about Iran version of F-14.

With the soon to be released F-14A, just wondering if anything has been confirmed in that regard?

Livery, possible changes to cockpit/systems or "experimental" weapons like Fakour-90 or possibly russsian missiles such as R-73.

 

I understand that this might not be a priority, just wondering as I find it very interesting. It adds for a lethal Redfor threat and fits really well with the Persian Gulf map :)

 

SKINS. THATS IT.

Id be interested in HAWKS replacing phoenies if that ever worked

my advice - I found out ( I DIdnt want to, numbers test ruin immersion for me) early phoenixes fall for chaff super easy.

So I think realistically if you wanna play IRIAF and its 80s 1 or 2 phoenixes.

IF its past 80s Id use old sparrows and sidewinders.

Ive never seen convincing evidence they made the hawk a phoenix equivalent or whatever

[Spiceman]

There’s no way HB should spend precious development time and effort on something as niche as IRIAF weapons mods, IMO. They should finish the Tomcat and then put their full effort into the A-6, again IMO.

[sublime]

There’s no way HB should spend precious development time and effort on something as niche as IRIAF weapons mods, IMO. They should finish the Tomcat and then put their full effort into the A-6, again IMO.

 

u had me at a6

plus the hawk conversion was never proven iirc

[Quid]

u had me at a6

plus the hawk conversion was never proven iirc

 

Based on Cooper & Bishop's book, you're correct. The AWG-9 had difficulty "talking" to the Hawk, and even though test firings were performed, the project was apparently abandoned shortly after the war ended in 1988.

 

I think if any weapon modifications at all are done, it should be to provide a correct version of the Sparrow. The IRIAF F-14s use AIM-7E family which are available in DCS at least on the AI F-4 Phantoms, so I'd wonder if they could be used on the IRIAF F-14. The AIM-9P and AIM-54A are already there, so if the AIM-7E/-2 (or whichever models they have been using) can be modeled we'll have a decent representation of the airplane in Iranian service.

[stuart666]

There is at least one Iranian pilot, now living in the US, that claimed to have used the Hawk, and successfully shot down a Mig29 with it, so it seems to have been used in combat in at least a limited form. OTOH, it doesnt seem to have been a great success, and was withdrawn as you suggest.

 

 

Ironically new build Iranian 'Phoenix' missiles seem to have Hawk internals. Which perhaps might suggest the problem was less the AWG9 talking to the Hawk, than the Hawks airframe causing stability problems when launched from a Tomcat. Either that, or they just got better at modding.

[BonerCat]

The Fakour 90 shouldnt be that difficult to reproduce, the airframe dynamics are the same as the Phoenix, as it has the same body. Some tweaks to the motor might be neccesary, and it is fox 1 only AFAIK, but other than that, i don't see big issues

That said, i m not a dev or an SME on this, so wth do i know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Would be nice tho

Edited October 19, 2020 by BonerCat

[Naquaii]

There has been several discussions about Iran version of F-14.

With the soon to be released F-14A, just wondering if anything has been confirmed in that regard?

Livery, possible changes to cockpit/systems or "experimental" weapons like Fakour-90 or possibly russsian missiles such as R-73.

 

I understand that this might not be a priority, just wondering as I find it very interesting. It adds for a lethal Redfor threat and fits really well with the Persian Gulf map :)

 

The IRIAF F-14A will be an F-14A limited to the weapons available to the IRIAF. It will also come without the TCS and Datalink as those were not used by them. It will also have IRIAF liveries.

 

As for all the other more "exotic" weapons claimed to have been used them, those are very much speculative and not something we're going to implement as it is now.

That stance could of course change if we get evidence of their integration and how it was done.

[sublime]

There is at least one Iranian pilot, now living in the US, that claimed to have used the Hawk, and successfully shot down a Mig29 with it, so it seems to have been used in combat in at least a limited form. OTOH, it doesnt seem to have been a great success, and was withdrawn as you suggest.

 

 

Ironically new build Iranian 'Phoenix' missiles seem to have Hawk internals. Which perhaps might suggest the problem was less the AWG9 talking to the Hawk, than the Hawks airframe causing stability problems when launched from a Tomcat. Either that, or they just got better at modding.

 

'claimed'

[WolfHound009]

The IRIAF F-14A will be an F-14A limited to the weapons available to the IRIAF. It will also come without the TCS and Datalink as those were not used by them. It will also have IRIAF liveries.

 

As for all the other more "exotic" weapons claimed to have been used them, those are very much speculative and not something we're going to implement as it is now.

That stance could of course change if we get evidence of their integration and how it was done.

 

will the TCS be replaced with the ALQ-100 nub under the nose or will the TCS be covered by a bullet fairing?

[draconus]

will the TCS be replaced with the ALQ-100 nub under the nose or will the TCS be covered by a bullet fairing?

 

The latter was planned.

[Naquaii]

 

The latter was planned.

 

At first the bullet fairing and then further on we’re looking at making a version with only the ALQ-100 and light but no promises.

 

Both versions did exist afaik.