Motomouse Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 Are you using tacview? (I have double fps without tacview in mp) VIC-20@1.108 MHz, onboard GPU, 5KB RAM, μυωπία goggles, Competition Pro HOTAS
Gunnars Driver Posted October 18, 2020 Posted October 18, 2020 right its running high teens for cpu frame times (msaa off is fine with ss at 150) il test the murderous server now 30 fps (was 20) gpu ft low teens, temp is 38. cpu ft high 20s and temp is high 50s/low 60s Which server is it, can I test for reference? [T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, Varjo Aero, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] [DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II and a few more ] i9 13900KF@5.8/32Gb DDR5@6400/ Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX4090, ASUS STRIX Z790-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe
eatthis Posted October 19, 2020 Author Posted October 19, 2020 Are you using tacview? (I have double fps without tacview in mp) yes and turning it off did nothing, (do not export data) 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr
eatthis Posted October 19, 2020 Author Posted October 19, 2020 Which server is it, can I test for reference? its not my server so il ask 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr
Taz1004 Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 Those monitoring programs themselves will eat up 10-15% of your CPU. It is actually normal to have frame rate drop if you're inside or flying through smokes. Transparency requires additional draw calls. In case of VR, will require 4x draw calls. Transparency on top of transparency will multiply exponentially and everything in DCS is already doing overdraw because you're always looking through transparent cockpit. Transparency is still the most expensive graphic effect in game engines. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
Gunnars Driver Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 Those monitoring programs themselves will eat up 10-15% of your CPU. Does it put the load on the same Core/thread as the DCS main thread? (If it’s not it shpuld cause that much effects...?) I dont know, havent used that software [T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, Varjo Aero, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] [DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II and a few more ] i9 13900KF@5.8/32Gb DDR5@6400/ Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX4090, ASUS STRIX Z790-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe
Motomouse Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 Uninstalling (not only turning off) tacview doubled the FPS in complex MP scenarios for me. It is possible at least worth a try. VIC-20@1.108 MHz, onboard GPU, 5KB RAM, μυωπία goggles, Competition Pro HOTAS
Taz1004 Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 Does it put the load on the same Core/thread as the DCS main thread? (If it’s not it shpuld cause that much effects...?) I dont know, havent used that software They seem to use all cores including the one DCS is using. I'm sure you can force affinity of monitoring. Was just a heads up. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
Gunnars Driver Posted October 19, 2020 Posted October 19, 2020 They seem to use all cores including the one DCS is using. I'm sure you can force affinity of monitoring. Was just a heads up. Ive never used it. Another player in our group usually do the tacview stuff and show us afterwards. A good idea to make sure that software doesnt load the dcs thread/core. [T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, Varjo Aero, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] [DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II and a few more ] i9 13900KF@5.8/32Gb DDR5@6400/ Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX4090, ASUS STRIX Z790-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe
eatthis Posted October 20, 2020 Author Posted October 20, 2020 Which server is it, can I test for reference? pm sent 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr
Gunnars Driver Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 pm sent No pm received...? [T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, Varjo Aero, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] [DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II and a few more ] i9 13900KF@5.8/32Gb DDR5@6400/ Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX4090, ASUS STRIX Z790-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe
eatthis Posted October 20, 2020 Author Posted October 20, 2020 No pm received...? resent 7700k @5ghz, 32gb 3200mhz ram, 2080ti, nvme drives, valve index vr
durp Posted October 20, 2020 Posted October 20, 2020 What was the solution to the low cpu usage actually? I have kinda the same.. the CPU doesn't even reach it's base clock speed, not even mentioning the single/all core boost speeds. (AMD) Did fiddle a lot with PL, thread affinity and the Asus own OC tool.. but it kind of barely affects DCS, maybe in the 0.5-1ms range on an empty map. No observation of an even spread of the loads on all cores as with the OP, no drop in performance if I record with OBS at the same time. I think the highest clock speed I have seen was around 3.2ghz (3.7 is base speed, and 4.5 is boost speed) but online the cpu frametimes are 20+ms not rare to be 25ms, which means I can barely maintain 40fps (half rate for the 80hz refreshrate) GPU is.. okay... 150% on steam and since I turned off shadows (which is terrible...) I can go to 200-220% for some cases, sometimes the GPU frametime did boost up to 70ms (not a typo) on a sunrise/sunset multiplayer game for quiet a few seconds (that was with 200% or 220%, need to observe this with 150%) What I try to explain here is that I have more leverage on the GPU side than on the CPU, and on the CPU I don't see the game even reaching the base clock speeds. It is technically not a gaming system but expectation would be so see the game at least sit at the base speed (or boost speeds... one can dream...). Thinking to do another rig just for gaming, but if this is also happening that the game does not reach the base speeds... then it is kind of pointless. So far the VR experience with DCS was almost a disaster imho, spend 2 weeks with just fiddling back and forth with settings... and the end-result is medium visibility, with trees growing out of the ground in front of you (I am a ground hog... ), no shadows and pretty much everything off/low. (texutres are high, enough gpu memory and no performance impact at all) I can get good framerates 10000ft in the air, but then the game doesn't look much different than a sim I played in 1997. totally out of options here :/ extras: shadermod: yes (no noticeable performance changes observed) stereo culling: yes (slightly smoother, still buggy)
Gunnars Driver Posted October 21, 2020 Posted October 21, 2020 resent Got it, but I couldnt join due to missing mandatory modules and maybe a mandatory mod. Instead I went to the most populated open server I could find, the I didnt see cpu frame time numbers even close to yours. [T.M HOTAS Warthog Stick & Throttle + T.Flight pedals, Varjo Aero, HP Reverb pro, Pimax 8KX] [DCS Mirage 2K; Huey; Spitfire Mk IX, AJS 37, F-14, F-18, FC3, A-10 Warthog II and a few more ] i9 13900KF@5.8/32Gb DDR5@6400/ Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX4090, ASUS STRIX Z790-F , 2Tb m2 NVMe
WillisRz8 Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 i was going trough all forum treads and finally what worked for me was quite obvious thing. First i used affinity to place dcs on cores not treads. On treads it had same fps but felt a lot sluggish, duno why is that. Then the big difference was disabling windows defender, which im not even using lol. My gpu usage always was jumping up and down, and dcs was unplayable, but not stable 99-100% usage with steady frames. its just day one, but i tried a lot of servers a lot of modules and terrains and they all worked, smooth as ice. hope this will help someone o7 R5 2600X RTX2070s ram 4x8gb @ 2933 dcs is on m2 drive
Taz1004 Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 5 hours ago, WillisRz8 said: i was going trough all forum treads and finally what worked for me was quite obvious thing. First i used affinity to place dcs on cores not treads. On treads it had same fps but felt a lot sluggish, duno why is that. Then the big difference was disabling windows defender, which im not even using lol. My gpu usage always was jumping up and down, and dcs was unplayable, but not stable 99-100% usage with steady frames. its just day one, but i tried a lot of servers a lot of modules and terrains and they all worked, smooth as ice. hope this will help someone o7 R5 2600X RTX2070s ram 4x8gb @ 2933 dcs is on m2 drive Disabling any type of antivirus or internet security I'm sure will lead to better performance. But we don't do it because of the risk. Better Smoke - Better Trees Caucasus - Better Trees Syria - Better Trees Mariana - Clear Canopy Glass
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